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March 16, 2013 Martha Thomases 2 Comments

colasThe big news in the Big Apple this week is that the courts have ruled against Mayor Bloomberg’s plan to ban the sale of sugared drinks over 16 ounces.  If you are not a New Yorker, you might not understand that our mayor, whatever his other qualities (both good and bad) is also a yenta.  In this case, in his desire to improve the health of New Yorkers, he over-reached and treated us like stupid little children.

Which is too bad, because in this case his narcissistic sense of entitlement to manage our lives was motivated by pretty good science.  There is lots of evidence that sugar is a truly dangerous substance.  I’m not talking about moderate amounts, such as one might have found in our diets a few hundred years ago.  I’m talking about now, when there is sugar in almost every processed thing we eat.  The link cites an study that uses a reliably large sample (which is adjusted for all sorts of variables in the population).  Key quote:

“But as (study co-author) Lustig says, “This study is proof enough that sugar is toxic. Now it’s time to do something about it.””

Unfortunately, what we’re doing about it is this.  Despite all the arguments (and stalemates and filibusters) in Congress over the deficit, we are somehow able to afford mammoth subsidies to the sugar industry.  I don’t know if this is a liberal or conservative position, but I know that it isn’t good for public health.

If you read about these debates over the budget, you can’t help but notice that many conservatives want to raise the age of retirement, especially as it relates to Social Security and Medicare.  The logic they cite notes that, when these programs were started, the average life expectancy was much lower than it is now.  A person who was 65 years old in 1930 could expect to live maybe a year or so.  A person whois 65 today can expect to live another 15 or 20 years, on average.  The argument suggests that these paid-benefit programs are being asked to do so much more now than when they started that, perhaps, the eligibility age should be raised.

And maybe it should.  That is a discussion worth having.  However, part of that discussion must include facts (I know, radical concept), including this one, that people with more money live longer than people with less.  This is due in part (not in total) to their improved access to health care, and quality food, as well as adequate leisure time for exercise.  They have the time and the educational opportunities to learn what’s in their food and what the long-term effects might be.  Raising the retirement age cuts benefits to the poor and extends them to the wealthy.

Ignorance isn’t  healthy.  Mike Bloomberg was trying to legislate to people he thought were ignorant.  That isn’t right.  And now, because, I guess, he’s a New Yorker and a Jew, which ignorant people must think  is the same as being liberal (it’s not – ask any New Yorker), Mississippi is trying to do the reverse.  This is just as wrong, for the same reasons.

Look, I’m not a food fascist.  I don’t lecture people about their diets, nor do I achieve any kind of vegan or macrobiotic perfection.  I like Double-Stuff Oreos and fried onion rings.  I like pleasure.

In fact, I believe that pleasure is a major reason to be alive.  I think that any joy you can have (without hurting another person) is a joy you should have.  I think that most of the social problems we have in this country can be traced to our Puritan heritage and the resulting attempts to tamp down on fun.

At the same time, if the only joy in your life is processed food with lots of sugar and fat (and chemicals and genetic mutations), than you are being deprived.  You deserve more and better.  You should have blueberries and sugarsnap peas and wild salmon (or, if you have different taste than I do, the finest examples of the foods you like).

You should have a body that feels good to live in, with healthy skin and teeth, soft clothes, and sun on your face.  You should have access to good books, good music, good movies and theaters.  You should dance.

And if you want a super-size soda once in a while, you should have that, too.  It’s really none of Mike Bloomberg’s business.

Martha Thomases, Media Goddess, thinks Salina Sias sings the best song about sugar.

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  1. Mike Gold
    March 16, 2013 - 7:31 am

    Sugar is bad. Absolutely. Massive amounts of sugar is worse. That’s the science of math.

    The assumption made by the food fascists that people who consume substances they, the food fascists, deem (correctly or faddishly) bad are stupid or unformed is rude, condescending, hypocritical (cast any first stones lately?), self-righteous and potentially dangerous. Some addicts are short-tempered.

    Dictatorship is worse. The government certainly can advise me as to the hidden evils among us, and individuals and organizations can as well — as long as all of the above aren’t exaggerating, lying, or mistaken. If Bloomberg started an educational campaign without imposing his will upon people’s lawful actions, I’d have no problem and would even be a supporter.

    But saying “this is bad so we won’t let you have it” is dictatorship. Yes, this applies to other substances that impose a cost to society, including (but not limited to) alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, opium and its derivatives including heroin and many types of legal drugs and cough medicines, cocaine, caffeine, aspirin, many types of cosmetics, many prescription drugs, diet pills, energy drinks, laser radiation, unradiated meats and vegetables, sometimes eggs, wheat, fossil fuels, and direct sunlight. And maybe radio waves; we should look into that one.

    But don’t ask me to take the little Nazi seriously when, at the same time he demands a ban on large soft drinks sold at CERTAIN (but not all) outlets, he also introduces and speachifies the 97th annual Nathan’s 4th of July hot dog eating contest, where the winner consumed 68 hot dogs and buns at the rate of nearly seven per minute. That just shows Bloomberg to be a hypocrite, an opportunist, an idiot, and a clown. And CERTAINLY void of credibility; he undermines his own cause.

    I have never consumed a soft drink in a size over around 20 ounces, although I suspect I have shared large-size soft drinks with others. But try and take away my hot dog (I just brought home four pounds of Vienna hot dogs for myself and friends, but I also like Nathans) and I’ll introduce you to my friend, Mister Fist-Up-Your-Ass.

  2. Mike Gold
    March 16, 2013 - 7:37 am

    Oh. And bacon. I didn’t mention bacon.

    Beware the wrath of MOTU!

  3. Elisa Thomases
    March 16, 2013 - 9:28 am

    I don’t drink that much soda but when I do I order a small. Why? Because I can’t drink a lot of soda. A small one lasts the same as a large(unless I am really really thirsty).
    For sugar I like it,especially chocolate. With Passover approaching is chocolate covered matzoh ok?

  4. Martha Thomases
    March 16, 2013 - 9:32 am

    How much sugar you eat is up to you. That’s my point. And if you’re going to eat sugar (or any other substance, including my beloved blueberries), you should know what it does to your body.

    That said, I’d rather eat my Passover sugar as macaroons, not chocolate-covered matzoh. And I probably won’t do either one.

  5. Mike Gold
    March 16, 2013 - 9:33 am

    Good point. During Passover, you can buy chocolate covered matzoh by the ream. Of course, if you ate all that in one sitting, you wouldn’t poop for a month. Unless the chocolate was from a place like Godiva.

  6. Mike Gold
    March 16, 2013 - 9:36 am

    I’m a sucker for cherry-flavored marshmallow twists. That’s my Jew-crack. There’s a place on the Lower East Side not far from Martha’s that sells it fresh by the five pound box, 12 months a year. Let’s see Bloomberg try and put a stop to THAT!

  7. Pennie
    March 16, 2013 - 1:43 pm

    Now here’s a column I can savor!
    I haven’t been able to eat, taste and retain food for the better part of a year.
    The one joy in my nutritional life was chocolate. Hard to put into words how much chocolate meant–and continues to mean. Chocolate therapy made chemo therapy a bit more tolerable.
    I have just been unshackled from chemo and all that it means.
    I have graduated from submission to remission. From a VERY limited diet to one that actually contains spices–like salt and pepper.
    If peristalsis was allowed into the Olympics, I could have nailed a 10 every day.
    If anyone was to tell me what I was permitted to eat or drink I would sic Mike on them–and I don’t mean Bloomberg.

  8. Mike Gold
    March 16, 2013 - 1:46 pm

    Yes, Pennie, I am a cannibal. And I’m pissed there are laws against it. A couple of joints and I’d slice off a piece of Chris Christie, if not for those pesky laws.

  9. Pennie
    March 16, 2013 - 2:02 pm

    You go guy!
    I am thinking I might go for the ribs– and be able to taste them.
    Only question is, wet or dry?

  10. Mike Gold
    March 16, 2013 - 2:07 pm

    Depends on the rib joint. And there are some swell places in Detroit (yeah, I know, that’s not exactly across the block), Slow’s St. Louis ribs topping the list.

    Damn. Now I want some ribs.

  11. Pennie
    March 16, 2013 - 2:15 pm

    Me too. I’m supposed to meet some people tonight for my first night out since unshackledom. Hoping there are ribs.

  12. Pennie
    March 16, 2013 - 2:18 pm

    Food, glorious food. Martha , Arthur and I had the most fabulous fish in a Greek restaurant in LV last yer. I’ve been fantasizing about that meal since.
    Martha, your point on pleasure is spot on… (Gee spot, see spot run)

  13. Ed Sedarbaum
    March 16, 2013 - 2:34 pm

    I wonder if LiLac still sells blueberries in white chocolate. It rises above all questions of health and caution.

  14. R. Maheras
    March 17, 2013 - 3:47 pm

    Just as an FYI, the directions for Kool-aid, a pitcher of which I have in my refrigerator as we speak, calls for 1 cup of sugar per 2 quarts. It gives you the option to use Splenda, of course, but since I hate that stuff, I sure as heck am not going to use it. That said, I do only add about a third a cup if sugar when I make Kool-aid, so that’s my way of reducing sugar intake. I do the same with most fruit juices, watering them down by half. So I guess since one can still by bags of sugar at the market, those will be in Bloombergs’s crosshairs soon. What a maroon.

  15. Mike Gold
    March 17, 2013 - 3:51 pm

    Unlike most politicians — and maybe this is to his credit — Bloomberg doesn’t have a short attention span. However, his opposition to the excessive stands of the NRA literally is a mater of putting his money where his mouth is… both of which are considerable. So I wouldn’t worry about his crosshairs.

    However, the City of New York does have its own air force.

  16. Martha Thomases
    March 17, 2013 - 4:24 pm

    As this story (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/opinion/sunday/how-to-force-ethics-on-the-food-industry.html?ref=opinion) in today’s Times shows, we’re being hosed by the large corporations, who care about us only for our contribution to their coffers. No surprise there, but it helps to be aware.

    And, of course, there is this (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/nyregion/in-obesity-fight-poverty-is-patient-zero.html?hp&_r=0) larger story, which is the real tragedy.

  17. Rene
    March 18, 2013 - 5:05 am

    What an asshole.

    I have never been crazy for sugar, but no one is going to keep me away from my barbecue. What I eat and drink is my business. I don’t have a lot of patience for this kind of shit.

    There is a kind of liberal that proliferated in the 1990s, the insufferable kind that helped turn “liberal” into a bad word. You know the type: so PC that they don’t have black shirts, they have African-American shirts; can’t shut up about the whales and the rain forest; so feminist that they think giving blowjobs is degrading to women; and thinks sugar is worse than crack, and eating meat makes you a Nazi (Ironically, Hitler was a vegetarian).

    Assholes.

  18. Martha Thomases
    March 18, 2013 - 6:00 am

    Rene, Bloomberg is no liberal. Just ask my peace-freak friends who were jailed for demonstrating against the Republican convention here in 2004.

    Actually, as someone who tries to live a more or less PC life (or, as I prefer to think of it, conscientious), I’ve never met anyone who fits your description. I’ve seen that caricature, sure, but never an actual person.

    And I know plenty of insufferable people.

  19. Mike Gold
    March 18, 2013 - 6:13 am

    Sure, on an overview it’s tough to find anybody, liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat, atheist or religionist, who hits all of the items on their detractor’s list, but in order to achieve a more egalitarian society we must maintain and examine to what extent we are focusing on the meaningful and to what extent we are being camp followers. I think Rene’s pretty close to the mark.

    For example, I know very few women who have the disregard for blowjobs that Rene notes. This is most likely because, when I meet a woman with whom I wish to be intimate, I ask her if she understands the meaning of “quid pro quo.”

    To be fair, I will go to great lengths to defend my fellow barbecue junkie.

  20. Rene
    March 18, 2013 - 6:52 am

    Well, nowadays you don’t find a lot of people like that, Liberals have become more cynical. But that doesn’t mean that they never existed.

    Just like no one admits to having liked disco music, or the English Patient, or Spawn (actually the English Patient is a decent movie, it doesn’t deserve all the hate).

    But even back in the early 1990s, you wouldn’t find those people in political conventions. They’d hang out in those stores you could buy crystals and incence sticks, they’d read Paulo Coelho novels and the Mists of Avalon, and they’d say loudly that Dances with Wolves was the first western to get it right, c’mon, I’m not the only one who remembers them, don’t tell me I’m allucinating.

    (Dances with Wolves also is a decent movie, by the way, even though they felt the need to give him a convenient white wife raised by Indians)

  21. Martha Thomases
    March 18, 2013 - 6:56 am

    AsI said, I’ve never met these people (and I hang out with all kinds of non-violent extremists). Perhaps they exist, but they hold no positions of power.

    Bloomberg does, and he likes using it. And he’s no liberal, no matter what they think in Mississippi.

  22. Mike Gold
    March 18, 2013 - 7:38 am

    Well then, I’ve got a few people I’d like to introduce you to. Let’s start with the nice liberal teachers I offended when I wore my “Nuke The Whales” button.

    As for the folks in Mississippi, on this issue I’m with them. The government’s role is to advise us, not to censor us. I’ve been using seat belts since before they became standard equipment and under most circumstances I believe only a moron wouldn’t use one, but I resent and am opposed to the government making such use mandatory as a matter of law. I have the right to act like a moron.

    And I exercise that right all the time.

  23. Martha Thomases
    March 18, 2013 - 7:41 am

    Teachers have power? When did that happen?

    See, this is where we differ. I think the law-makers in Mississippi are over-reaching in exactly the same way Bloomberg is, what with forbidding posting calorie counts and the like. I object to overreaching by elected officials (although if we want to argue about Bloomberg buying the last election, I’m in for that).

    I thought you did, too, Mike. Even if the law mandated barbecue consumption.

  24. Mike Gold
    March 18, 2013 - 7:49 am

    Of course teachers have power. I know this first hand; I’ve been a student. The fact that they, as a group, are totally marginalized and even demonized doesn’t mean they don’t have any power. Every free person has some power… but power only exists when and if people realize it, understand it, and chose to exercise it.

    The lawmakers in Mississippi are grandstanding, Hard to imagine politicians doing that. But I’ll pick freedom of choice over censorship every day of the week. The Right is right about the Nanny State — they employ it to a ludicrous extreme (as Michele Obama knows all too well), but the underlying principle is valid.

    I am not in favor of mandated barbecue consumption. First of all, it would deny my daughter her right to post-adolescent rebellion. Second, it would drive prices up.

  25. Martha Thomases
    March 18, 2013 - 7:54 am

    We’re dancing here, kiddo. I would argue that the Mississippi law, which restricts the rights of its citizens to know what they are eating, is just as much of a “nanny state” as anything else.

    And I refuse to say that Bloomberg is a liberal, or even left of center. He’s not. He’s a megalomaniac. The fact that we sometimes share the same opinions (in this case, that too much sugar is bad for public health) doesn’t mean I support the way he goes about acting on it.

  26. Mike Gold
    March 18, 2013 - 8:13 am

    Martha, you know I love dancing with you.

    People can get calorie counts quite easily, and they are not posted on the menus in most states. Having just eaten meals in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana and Illinois in the past week, that’s trend is not growing. I don’t object to laws that make them available to consumers at their request and having signage advising them of this availability as long as these laws are universally deployed. To say a fast food joint must do so but that ritzy Italian ristorante down the block doesn’t have to is discriminatory, hypocritical AND elitist. To say McDonalds can’t sell a 17 ounce soda but the 7-11 next door can sell a Big Gulp served in a 55 gallon drum (“for a nickel” — Louie Anderson) is exactly the same thing.

    And — most important — the Food Fascists think people who do not eat the way they do are stupid and need to be shown the way. We are NOT stupid. We know a Baconator is not health food. Honest. But selection is our choice, and freedom from harassment is our right. Now, I don’t eat Baconators because I can’t get them without cheese (not reliably), but Adele Davis died for HER sins and not mine.

    Do you like pancakes or waffles? God, I’ve got a GREAT place to take you next time I coerce you into going to Chicago. Adriane made me take her there twice within 24 hours. The calorie count was bigger than my zip code. And I’ll be back there after C2E2 next month. I’d invite Bloomberg, but he’ll be busy scarfing down Nathan’s hot dogs.

  27. Martha Thomases
    March 18, 2013 - 8:29 am

    Pancakes and waffles are delicious, but they tend to put me to sleep. I have to decide if they fit into my plans for the day.

    I would be entirely in favor of all restaurants posting calorie counts. However, that hoity-toity joint probably prepares each dish to order, instead of taking it out of the freezer. Hence, it can be impossible to get anything accurate. The standardization of fast-food is better for that.

    But estimates would be fair. I’ve been to quite a few places that do that. In my experience, it was more common in Florida (where an older population might make people more conscious of what they eat, including salt, sugar and fat content).

  28. Mike Gold
    March 18, 2013 - 8:52 am

    When I order a fast-food hamburger, it, too, is usually made to order. I want EVERYTHING my way, damn it. More important, I want it freshly cooked. And I believe Wendy’s doesn’t use frozen burgers. Or Smashburger, although I’ve never been there. Five Guys is okay, but that’s because I can get my burger with sautéed onions and barbecue sauce.

    Hard to imagine that older person in Florida actually being able to see and read that small type calorie count on the back-lit menu board that’s 15 feet away and 10 feet up. I can barely read it in NYC. The greatest evil, particularly for children, is neither sugar nor salt but the combination of the two. So, perhaps, the Food Fascists should be more concerned about serving those 17 ounce sodas with anything else on the menu, as just about all of it contains salt. Except, perhaps, the frozen parfaits. Now THERE”S a sugar rush for you. Super-sized sodas are evil, but the sugar-laden confections are okay?

    Perhaps the FFs should come clean and be totally honest: they want ALL these places shut down. Fast-food, sugary food, salty food, starchy food, the whole damn thing. Only vegan health food that isn’t irradiated (and therefore likely to be infested with all sorts of unhealthy bacteria) should be permitted for human consumption, and we should all look gaunt and ridiculously pale and very unhealthy. I never met a vegan who didn’t look like it was about to pop out in bed sores. Zombies crying out for broccoli instead of brains. Touch my Popeye’s at your own risk.

    Oh, and I’ll add New Jersey to my list of states. We had a burger at the Burger King on the Garden State Parkway a week ago today (a single burger, on a bun, with ketchup and onions, no cheese, and a small Diet Coke, no fries). No calorie count. And the meal was so fuckin’ awesome that Adriane and I decided to drive up I-287 on the way back and avoid the Garden State completely. But that might have been a mistake: it’s possible that I could have run in to Bloomberg and Christie at the Nathans next to the Burger King.

    So… where do you want to go for dinner Friday?

  29. R. Maheras
    March 19, 2013 - 8:48 am

    Back in the mid-1970s, when I was single, had my own apartment, and had a union job where I worked a ton of overtime, I ate at McDonald’s a LOT! Invariably I ordered two plain quarter-pounders with cheese, a large fry and a large Coke. Now, while it’s true the McDonald’s large fry and large Coke was smaller than today, that was still a lot of calories. I also would routinely down a two-liter bottle of Coke or Pepsi when drawing or going over to friends’ houses to watch 16 mm movies, TV shows or cartoons. I also would sometimes eat a whole box of Lucky Charms or Sugar Pops (now Corn Pops) in one sitting.

    During the three- or four year period , I was 5′ 9″ and weighed 150 pounds, and never gained an ounce.

    Why? Well, my metabolism back then was in after-burner mode, I had a warehouse order-filler job that had me on my feet all day, and I regularly played hockey and full-court basketball.

    So, my view isn’t that it’s the fat or the sugar’s fault when it comes to a person’s weight gain. It’s the person’s lifestyle and the quirks of their metabolism.

    That’s why I think Bloomberg, and all of the other food Nazis, are either stupid or in denial.

  30. Mike Gold
    March 19, 2013 - 9:03 am

    I can’t believe the shit I ate as a kid.

    Then again, having just spent 42 hours back in Sweet Home Chicago… yeah, I can believe it.

  31. Rene
    March 20, 2013 - 2:59 pm

    The problem is that our bodies evolved to be nomadic hunter-gatherers. Sugar and fat taste “good” to us because they would have been rare sources of energy for people who had to escape tigers and weather harsh winters.

    Nowadays, there is too much of the “good stuff” and not enough big cats roaming loose.

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