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July 13, 2013 Martha Thomases 1 Comment

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It wasn’t bad enough that Anthony Weiner decided to run for office of New York City Mayor.  Now Eliot Spitzer wants to be Comptroller.

Both men were forced to resign from elected office (Congressman and Governor, respectively) because of sex scandals.  In both cases, the offenses were more or less victimless (as in, the activities were among consenting adults), but they were also incredibly stupid.

Neither was the first politician to be caught in a sex scandal.  Neither was the first man who had to resign because of public pressure.

However ….

 

 

In both cases, especially Weiner’s, they might have been able to muddle through.  After all, David Vitter is still a Senator.

I liked Weiner when I saw him on The Daily Show, and I thought he got a raw deal.  There is no doubt in my mind that in any group of 100 powerful men, at least 55 of them are using the Internet to flirt with women they don’t know.  I, myself, found myself flirting a ridiculous amount when I first discovered Instant Messaging back in the 1990s.  No, I didn’t arrange for assignations, nor did I send any salacious photographs.  I thought I was being charming.  Nevertheless, when I encountered some of these men later, in real life, a few of them suggested we hook up.  Men who knew my husband and my son.  I was able to rebuff them without threatening any relationships, but, as a result, I understand how tricky it can be to communicate online.

Spitzer is more problematic.  I thought he was a terrific Attorney General and only an adequate Governor.  As Attorney General, he held Wall Street’s feet to the fire, which they didn’t like.  He also campaigned against prostitution.  Just as any public figure who spends a lot of time bashing gay people inevitably gets caught with someone “lifting his luggage”, maybe we should suspect politicians who rail against prostitutes.  To my mind, he had to go because of his hypocrisy.

However, neither Weiner nor Spitzer was well-liked by his colleagues, and no one stood up to defend him.  We’ve had two decades of mayors who don’t play well with others.  We don’t need any more.

And we don’t need four years of dick jokes.

For some reason, Michael Bloomberg has a reputation as a liberal.  I don’t know why; maybe it’s because he’s Jewish.  It certainly doesn’t have anything to do with the way he governs (despotically) or those whom his policies favor (rich people, real estate developers).  I think he’s a narcissistic autocrat.  It might have helped him start and run his company, but it’s not so good for the city.

There are a bunch of good people running against Weiner.  Personally, I like Bill de Blasio, and I’ve voted for Bill Thompson before and would happily do it again.

Spitzer only has one serious opponent, Scott Stringer.  I like him, too.

I like all of them.  I like their policies.  I like their records.  And I like that I know nothing whatsoever aboutt their sex lives.

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  1. Mike Gold
    July 13, 2013 - 7:11 am

    I think both Spitzer and Weiner have been given a bad rap by the professional blue noses, particularly the anti-sex faction of the feminist movement. Prostitution is nobody’s business, and if women were truly in control of their bodies it would be legal, obviating the job of pimp. Few sex workers are unwilling victims of an evil and corrupt society, and for all, it’s a choice. Legalize it, and instead condemn those who think it is their self-righteous responsibility to stick their blue noses in other people’s butts.

    Weiner’s crime was sophistry. I’m in the comic book business (as is Martha); sophistry is our middle name. Was it stupid? Yes. Does that mean Weiner is stupid? No. Just childishly silly. We all are from time to time, even those who email their sex organs around (for free).

    I would make this same exact argument if the names were Bush and Cheney. Or Abbot and Costello.

  2. Mike Gold
    July 13, 2013 - 7:13 am

    Actually, I’d have a bit of respect for Lou Costello if he were involved in the cell phone thing.

  3. Howard Cruse
    July 13, 2013 - 7:37 am

    I’m no longer a New Yorker, so I am saved from stressing over these particular decisions. I find myself rooting for Spitzer despite the dick-joke potential because he’s smart, I liked his resoluteness in combatting financial wrongdoers, and it seems like he’s been chastened enough by his fall from the governorship to have (possibly) had some of the anti-prostitution hypocrisy knocked out of him. But if you think Stringer’s the better man for the job, Martha, I take your opinion seriously.

  4. Martha Thomases
    July 13, 2013 - 7:49 am

    I liked Spite as AG (when I didn’t know what a hypocrite he was). Egomania works well in that job. I think it’s less attractive in a Comprtroller.

  5. Ed Sedarbaum
    July 13, 2013 - 8:15 am

    I wouldn’t put Spitzer and Weiner in the same category despite some similarities. Weiner was turning out to be an ineffective legislator because all he knew how to do was bellow and alienate his colleagues. Not a great choice to be mayor of a fractious city. And as far as I could tell he spent his time after leaving office staying out of the public dialogues. Spitzer, on the other hand, weighed in intelligently on public issues and had alienated colleagues as much because of his bold policing of moneyed interest as his personal style. I don’t know if he’d be a better comptroller than Stringer, who was a very sympathetic and likable assemblyman (essential qualities for a good legislator) but comptroller is the perfect job for Spitzer. I wish the world would get it through its head that legislator and executive are completely different professions with the need to get elected the only thing they have in common.

  6. Mike Gold
    July 13, 2013 - 2:23 pm

    Spitzer took on Wall Street. If only our duck-and-cover President would have done the same.

  7. Martha Tomases
    July 13, 2013 - 3:09 pm

    Mike, I said these were stupid things. However, I think it’s fair to expect politicians to obey the laws the make everyone else follow.

  8. Mike Gold
    July 13, 2013 - 6:04 pm

    Ridiculous. Politicians obey the law? Never happened. Otherwise, why become a politician?

    In every election some person is going to win (eventually), and odds are overwhelming that person will be a jerk. Which is why we take voting for granted: we don’t like having to choose between a bunch of jerks. None of them walk on water (reference: Chance in Being There) and the joke about wanting to be a politician should disqualify you for the job is hip-deep in truth.

    Spitzer took on Wall Street and won. Obama decided not to try, back when he had a Democratic congress. What Spitzer accomplished on Wall Street is a lot more important than spending his money on a sex worker operating out of her own free will… even if he smoked some weed in the taxi on the way over.

    Having said that… evidently, “comptroller” is another word for Jewish limbo.

  9. R. Maheras
    July 14, 2013 - 12:59 pm

    I thinks it’s definitely the constituent’s business about an elected official visits with prostitutes if that same elected official is making his/her career throwing other people in jail for visiting prostitutes.

    I can’t stand “do as I say, not as I do” politics, or the selected enforcement of law, regardless of which party an elected official belongs to.

  10. George Haberberger
    July 15, 2013 - 2:45 pm

    Andrew Klavan. writing in the City Journal, summed up this election with this:
    “Likewise, as I look at the New York Creep-Off from afar, I can’t help but question the great city’s wisdom. It’s not that people like Weiner and Spitzer should be hounded and condemned for their mistakes indefinitely. Let them go about their business. Truly, let them thrive. But when it comes to choosing leaders, can the city really find no one better? It’s a representative government, after all. Why can’t New Yorkers find someone who represents them at their best?”

    The whole article is here:
    http://www.city-journal.org/2013/eon0711ak.html

  11. Mike Gold
    July 15, 2013 - 2:52 pm

    Screw Klavan and all his Jerry Lewis buddies. Somebody wants to go to a sex worker, that’s between the sex worker and the client. It’s nobody else’s business. Same thing with stupid emails. I’m more concerned with the people who ratted the fucker out and how much they made off of that.

    Why won’t New Yorkers find someone who represents them at their best? Why the hell should New Yorkers be held to a standard to which no other city, no other state, and most certainly not the nation itself is held? At their very, very worst, Weiner and Spitzer are goddamned saints compared to Tammany Hall — which, by the way, only went out of business 40 years ago, in the 1970s. Longest lasting racket mob in American history.

    At least Spitzer stood up to Wall Street. Everybody else just whines about it: left, right, Democrats, Tea Partiers, and libertarians. He walked the walk, he talked the talk, and he paid for his own hookers. If I lived in NYC, I’d vote for him in a heartbeat.

  12. George Haberberger
    July 16, 2013 - 8:39 am

    “Screw Klavan and all his Jerry Lewis buddies.”
    As far as I know, Klavan is not big in France.

    What Spitzer and Weiner did was make stupid choices. Is that anyone else’s business? Well, it seems those choices are the business of their wives. If they are willing to disregard the promises they made to the people they love, how secure can the voters be about the oath of office they take?

  13. Mike Gold
    July 16, 2013 - 8:49 am

    Because they’re politicians. Professional liars. Politicians wind up having politicians as spouses — even if that wasn’t the plan originally. Usually spouses seem to put up with all this, usually with a big smile. I don’t understand it, but I’ve never married a politician. I know one I would, but she’s married and as far as I can tell she’s one of the few exceptions.

    But I don’t define other people’s relationships. If it works for them, what the hell do I care? The Netflix series House of Cards makes some interesting points about this.

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