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September 7, 2013 Martha Thomases 13 Comments
As a pacifist, I don’t want to see a military intervention in Syria. And, as a pacifist, I’m accustomed to having my opinions on these matters dismissed. So I file away my personal beliefs, and consider the situation from those that are so-called “realistic.”
So here’s what’s happening in the real world. There has been a civil war in Syria for several years now, and hundreds of thousands of people have been killed. As if this is not enough of a tragedy, the ruling dictator, Bashar al-Assad, poisoned thousands of his own people with sarin gas, killing hundreds of children in the process.
I’m not in favor of this. Nothing I say at any point should be interpreted as me thinking the deaths of thousands of people is a good thing. I am especially creeped out by the prospect of poison gas (not that getting shot is so much fun, either).
However ….
Just because Assad is bad doesn’t mean that the people fighting against him are good. In fact, many of them have ties to Al Qaeda. According to The New York Times, there are a whole mess of different factions. Here’s what I think is the key quote: “Mr. Kerry said that there were 70,000 to 100,000 ‘oppositionists.’ Of these, he said, some 15 percent to 20 percent were ‘bad guys’ or extremists.”
Maybe that doesn’t sound like a large percentage to you. It is, however, a larger proportional piece of the pie than will vote in the New York City primary on Tuesday. Fifteen to twenty percent is enough to distort democracy, especially when there is shooting.
So it’s not in our interests to support Assad. It’s not necessarily in our interests to support the rebels. What do we do?
The arguments being made before Congress by the Obama administration stress that it is not their intent to topple Assad, just weaken him. I’m not sure that’s a good solution, and I think the problem is that they are thinking about how to use the military to fix things. When you have a hammer, every problem is a nail. When you have the largest military force on the planet, every problem requires a military solution.
Is there another way to destroy the chemical weapons without sending in armed forces? I, for one, think we should send in James Bond. He could blow up the stuff and still find the hippest bar in Damascus.
(And I don’t literally mean “blowing up.” That would probably be a bad idea, even if it looks great in the movie version. He should find a way to destroy stuff without endangering everyone in the vicinity.)
This is not a solution that I expect other pacifists to support. If pressed, I would probably agree that relying on fictional characters to solve our problems doesn’t really work. However, my point stands that there are other ways to approach the problem, and considering those ways may suggest opportunities that don’t involve bombings.
For once, I find myself on the same side of an issue as the Pope. And I’m okay with that, because this Pope seems more open to those with whom the Catholic Church has traditionally disagreed than many of his predecessors.
I eagerly await the support of those Catholic elected officials, who claim they must oppose abortion and birth control and marriage equality because it is what their faith requires and they are men (and women) of faith. Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio — I’m looking at you.
Media Goddess Martha Thomases thinks maybe Harry Potter would be a better fictional character to get rid of sarin gas.
tom brucker
September 7, 2013 - 6:37 pm
Trade guns for butter? I wonder how much Assad would take for all his gas bombs? Got to be cheaper than a dozen cruise missles.
Mike Gold
September 7, 2013 - 10:05 pm
What part of “license to kill” goes along with pacifist philosophy?
We should take our chances and send in Doctor Manhattan.
Wendy Schwartz
September 8, 2013 - 4:48 am
Would that Martha’s idea were possible. Check out an alternative nonviolents solution put forth by Chris Hayes on his MSBNC program:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/05/chris-hayes-syria-opposition_n_3874952.html
Rene
September 8, 2013 - 12:55 pm
I blame it on Bush. He bungled things so much with Iraq that it will be probably another 50 years before any military action in the Middle East by a Western country looks good, even if it’s a lot more justified than Iraq ever was.
Martha, I think that for the truly spiritual person, pacifism is the only path. A pity that “spiritual” has nothing to do with “religious”.
Martha Thomases
September 8, 2013 - 5:19 pm
Rene,
You say “spiritual.” I say “ethical.” Pototo, potato (this works better if you can hear me).
George Haberberger
September 8, 2013 - 5:26 pm
I eagerly await the support of those Catholic elected officials, who claim they must oppose abortion and birth control and marriage equality because it is what their faith requires and they are men (and women) of faith. Paul Ryan, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio — I’m looking at you.
I don’t recall any of those politicians claiming that they oppose abortion because of their Catholic faith. If you have quotes to support that, please enlighten me. Even though it made Rick Santorum sick, I remember when John Kennedy explained that one’s faith should never influence political thought. These days politicians just don’t use their faith as a reason for anything. That certainly applies to Nancy Pelosi, who has been quoted, “As a practicing and respectful Catholic…” nevertheless, is Pro-Choice. (Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco has explained that the Minority Leader cannot be both, but she seems to not hear him.) I suppose even though she supports attacking Syria, she escapes your withering gaze because… because… I don’t know, help me out here. She is so consistent???
I blame it on Bush. He bungled things so much with Iraq that it will be probably another 50 years before any military action in the Middle East by a Western country looks good, even if it’s a lot more justified than Iraq ever was.
Yes, Bush and the Congress and the UN and the intelligence agencies of many of our allies, all bungled Iraq, because there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction after all. Of course Saddam Hussein had them once because he used them on his own people. And in the interim between the time we said we would attack and we actually invaded, he most certainly would not have gotten rid of them. Hey, I wonder where Assad got the Sarin he used?
Mike Gold
September 8, 2013 - 8:26 pm
Amazon.
Martha Thomases
September 9, 2013 - 6:32 am
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=6107&CFID=8822996&CFTOKEN=75577062
Susan Kent Cakars
September 9, 2013 - 10:14 am
I have yet to be convinced that Assad used the gas in this last attack–although even Bernie Sanders said on NPR lately that the evidence seemed strong that he did it. My bet is still with an opposition group. It just makes more sense.
Whitney
September 9, 2013 - 11:42 am
M, as in Bond’s M –
I believe it can go back to Bush the First. I remember an interview with General Stormin’ Norman (I write this because I have no idea how to spell Swartzkoff?). He stated that a strategic error was made when Saddam Hussein wasn’t required to come to the table and sign surrender papers the first time around, but sent representatives instead. He was able to save face with the military and control the public messaging.
That gave him time to plan. Eventually, he came to justice. But not until he was able to take more lives.
What if after he signed surrender papers, he was arrested and brought to trial for international crimes against humanity? Would 9/11 have happened? What about all of the wars afterwards…? And if he refused to come to the table, what’s wrong with issuing a bounty, Dead or Alive?
Yep..this will make me popular…
Rene
September 9, 2013 - 2:04 pm
George –
Okay, George. If you want to, I’ll say it. Unlike you, I don’t have any special loyalty to “my side.”
Congress – Yes, they bungled it too. A bunch of weakling Democrats that were deadly afraid of “looking weak” in war time, so they gave Bush carte blanche. What were they afraid of? Dems always look weak, anyway…
The UN – Yes, they bungled it too. What did you expect? They’re the UN, they’re pratically useless. It’s only in a Republican’s paranoid fantasies that the UN is a superpowerful conspiracy to take over the world. In reality, they’re just the collection of nations with conflicting interests that can only vote on stuff that is going to be ignored by any strong nation. What could they do?
“Our” Allies – The UK? They were George Bush’s poodle. Yes, that counts as a bungle.
In any case, George Bush (with assorted help and/or complicity of Congress, UN, and “our” allies) has effectively ended American “Imperialism” with the colossal mistake that was his Iraq War.
That was one good thing that Bush did, though that is the same as saying Hitler did something good, because after Hitler no one can be racist in polite company anymore.
George Haberberger
September 10, 2013 - 11:17 am
Martha, thanks for that link. It was encouraging to read and even if ultimately nothing came of the bishop’s action, at least someone is paying attention. This happened in 1989 so it possible the politician could have been Nancy Pelosi who was elected to Congress in 1987. However, she is hardly the only Pro-Choice politician who wants to claim to be Catholic.
I thought when I clicked on the link that it may be some quotes from the politicians you listed who did claim to be Pro-Life because they are Catholic. Not the case though.
Rene said: ”A bunch of weakling Democrats that were deadly afraid of “looking weak” in war time, so they gave Bush carte blanche. What were they afraid of? Dems always look weak, anyway…”
In 1998, three years before Bush became president, President Clinton said: “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Advisor, Feb. 18, 1998.
Quite a few more here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp
Tedzini
September 21, 2013 - 8:01 am
I wonder how our geopolitical perspectives and conversations are going to be affected once Urthecast is up and running?