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September 25, 2015 Victor El-Khouri 8 Comments
Not that anybody asked me, but to my mind, one of the best things about this country is the separation of Church and State. With no official religion, there is no Divine Right of Kings. There is no Sharia Law. The only unelected authorities in my life are those I choose personally and voluntarily.
When I was a young girl, and John F. Kennedy was making his first run for the presidency, a lot of people (including my mother, but not my father) opposed him because they didn’t want a chief executive who would “take his orders from the Pope of Rome.” (Note: I don’t know who actually said that, but it’s a phrase I remember, so I put it in quotes to convey that those are not my words.)
So I’m more than a little bit irked at my local television’s obsession with the upcoming visit from Pope Francis. Yes, there are close to 80 million Catholics in this country. Yes, a whole lot of them live in this media market. Is that really something worth re-scheduling Judge Judy over?
He’s here now, and I’m finding this visit somewhat more interesting than visits from other popes. For one thing, I’ve always found Jesuits to be the most interesting Catholics. They seem to value questioning and discussion and even disagreements more than other kinds, which makes them seem more Jewish (by which I mean, my kind of Jewish). Francis, in particular, coming from a community-organizing background that is non-European, is a refreshing change from his more traditional predecessors. I can imagine having an interesting conversation with him, one with disagreements but not disrespect, if I could speak Spanish.
Naturally, those are exactly the traits that the more conservative among us dislike. This is a pope who likes to engage in issues beyond those that our popular culture considers spiritual, by which I mean he has opinions about things besides what we do with our genitals. In his view, the environment and economic inequality are also issues addressed in the Gospels.
As a secular progressive, I enjoy watching conservative Catholics squirm. For several decades, I’ve listened to conservative Catholic politicians claim that their faith compels them to support anti-choice laws and anti-LGBTQ rights. It’s a matter of dogma, according to their pope (the same role JFK had to forswear). This pope has not disavowed previous Catholic positions, but he doesn’t make that big deal about it, relatively speaking. Instead, this pope says it is more important to lift up the poor and save the planet.
There are lots of reasons other than faith to hold any position on any important issue. I would argue that it is imperative to bring more than faith to one’s moral and political identity. I think Francis would agree. After all, he has a degree in the secular sciences.
If you’re Catholic and you are excited about the Pope’s visit, mazel tov. Enjoy. As for me, I’ll be out of town. I won’t even have to complain about the traffic.
Media Goddess Martha Thomases would like to thank Jay Maeder (RIP) for the title riff.
Mindy Newell
September 27, 2015 - 9:16 am
Pope Francis: “Who am I to judge?”–which is the modern way of saying “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” sure caused an uproar in this country (and around the world), even if it is one of Jesus’ basic tenets.
His statements, directed at homosexuals and women who have had abortions, of “non-judgement, forgiveness, and even welcoming “back into the church” sure rocked the Christian right, didn’t it? Okay, I know that most of the “Christian” right are not Roman Catholics, but evangelical Protestants; but they do pretend to follow Jesus’ teachings–though they are a most judgemental lot.
And I do think it’s disgusting (and scary) how the evangelicals ignore and “forget” the separation of Church and State in this country. To watch and hear all the Republican nominees–including Jeb Bush, which really surprised me, to be honest–stumbling over themselves as they rejected Pope Francis’ statements about climate change is embarrassing to me as an American…and also saddens me…and, again, scares the SHIT out of me. I keep thinking about THE HANDMAID’S TALE by Margaret Sanger, y’know?…and how we seem to be heading there. (Also COVENTRY, by Robert Heinlein.)
I think my mother voted for JFK because she thought he was so handsome and Jackie was so chic. (Just kidding.) My dad voted for him because he admired him. (And maybe he also “admired” Jackie? LOL!)
Martha, have you read THE SPARROW and CHILDREN OF GOD by Mary Doria Russell? The main protaganist is a Jesuit priest, who leads a mission to a newly discovered planet that was discovered through radio signals that picked up music and singing.
Although the Jesuits have a bloody history–St. Francis of Xavier, the order’s founder, was a Spanish knight and soldier–and were often called “Soldiers of God,” it is important to remember that violence and death are associated with many religions–historically, the Reformation and the Counter-Reformation used torture and burning of “heretics” to, uh, “make their point.” Still, the Jesuits are associated with associated with scholarship and education throughout history, opening colleges and universities all over the world.
As a Jew (a Jewess, as Mike Gold likes to call me), I’ve always been wary of Jesuits and their association with the Inquisition. But a little research led to my discovery that the Inquisition was not started by the Jesuits, but by the Dominicans–although there were a few Jesuit priests involved.
Here’s an article about the Jesuits and the Jews…
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/127310/is-a-jesuit-good-for-the-jews
Oh, and btw, Mary Doria Russell converted to Judaism.
George Haberberger
September 27, 2015 - 12:52 pm
I like Pope Francis. He has done a remarkable job of marketing an established product as if there were something new about it. And people love him for it. As Martha said “This pope has not disavowed previous Catholic positions, but he doesn’t make that big deal about it, relatively speaking.”
No, he has not altered any tenets of Catholic dogma. Still for traditional marriage, still vehemently Pro-Life. But “not making that big a deal about it” seems to be all that in necessary for people to think that there is something radically different. It is all a matter of perception. And it reveals how little they knew before, because his attitude is one that I have found in priests throughout my life. As Mindy says, “Who am I to judge?” is simply another way to say “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” Pope Francis says it and its news.
Mindy, “A Handmaid’s Tale” was written by Margaret Atwood, not Margaret Sanger. I have not read “The Sparrow” or “Children of God” but your description reminded me of an episode of the new Twilight Zone show from the 1980s. (Hah! The “new” Twilight Zone show was in the 80s. Shows how old I am.) Anyway this was a Christmas episode. It took place on a spaceship approximately 2,000 lightyears from earth. On board was a Jesuit priest. He was the ship’s chaplain. In the course of the mission the crew discovers an ancient space probe with records of a glorious civilization on a planet whose sun was about to go nova. The people knew their end was at hand and had sent this probe into space so there would be some record of their existence when it was discovered eventually. The hook was that when, by doing some calculations, they discovered that this exploding sun was seen on earth as the star of Bethlehem. The priest has to come to terms with the knowledge that billions of lives were wiped out so that the star announcing the birth of Jesus would exist. Very powerful episode.
Mindy Newell
September 27, 2015 - 3:49 pm
Hey, George!
I like Pope Francis, too. He is truly a “man of the world” as well a “man of God.”
Oy, of course I know that HANDMAID was written by Margaret Atwood. Just another dumb typo, like the one that caused me all the bullshit trouble in my column”Strange Fruit” over at ComicMix. You’re not going to “troll” me, are you, George? 😉
Mindy Newell
September 27, 2015 - 3:50 pm
And George,
That is an episode I would love to see!!! Do you remember the title by any chance?
George Haberberger
September 27, 2015 - 6:22 pm
MIndy,
Back in the 80s when VHS tape recorders were new, I taped the new Twilight Zone and Spielberg’s Amazing Stories. I still have those tapes and I still have a VHS player. I just finished watching “The Star” from 1985. It starred Fritz Weaver and Donald Moffat and was based on a story by Arthur C. Clark. Here is the story’s Wikipedia’s entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_(The_Twilight_Zone)
I had a couple of details wrong. The civilization left all the information about themselves in a vault deep underground on the outermost planet of their system which escaped the nova blast. There was a sub-space beacon with a repeating message. The rest is how I remembered it.
Incidentally, Harlan Ellison was the creative consultant on that series and that same tape has the episodes featuring “One Life Furnished in Early Poverty” and “Shatterday”. Shatterday stars Bruce Willis who was starring in Moonlighting at the time. What a time trip this was.
Martha Thomases
September 28, 2015 - 7:44 am
it is my perception that Francis chooses to emphasize social justice issues (economic equality, caring for the earth) because those are the things that are talked about at great length in the Bible, especially the Jesus parts.
What individual humans do with their genitals? It’s there, but not so much.
George Haberberger
September 28, 2015 - 8:18 am
Hey Mindy, The Star is on YouTube in two parts. I should have checked YouTube yesterday. It would have been easier than going through those tapes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECLzGKDTgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgjX9MJTdtM
George Haberberger
September 28, 2015 - 8:21 am
Okay, I don’t know why only the second link posted. I copied the first part also. Anyway, it is easy to find on YouTube
Mindy Newell
September 28, 2015 - 8:25 am
Thanks, George!
Ed Sedarbaum
September 29, 2015 - 12:21 pm
I don’t blame the pope for the way his trip totally monopolizes my television set. The stations do that anytime there’s a prolonged event of any consequence. I just with reporters would stop calling him The Holy Father. He’s the pope — lowercased according to Chicago Manual of Style or capped as some other style books have it. But he is not my Holy Father.
Mary Anne Barnett
September 29, 2015 - 12:28 pm
So the pope visits. And addresses the UN. Xi Jinpin, the Gen’l Sec. of the CP of China visits. And addresses the UN. Obama, still the President of the USA, addresses the UN. Putin, Russian President visits, and addresses the UN. Just the big bosses trying to calm the restive masses that they are in charge, everything’s under control, no need to worry, go back to shopping or tweeting or posting or whatever.