No Future, by Martha Thomases – Brilliant Disguise
April 3, 2010 Martha Thomases 27 Comments
This week’s episode off “As the Bizarro World Turns” was shown on Monday this week. That’s when Garry Trudeau, in Doonesbury, compared the Tea Party movement to the Youth International Party.
I think Trudeau was making a joke, but since then, dozens of TV Talking Heads have referred to this event as a 21st Century Woodstock.
Really? A bunch of angry, mostly middle-aged white people complaining about health care reform and taxes is the same thing as three days of peace, love and music? Since when?
I know I sound like an old fart when I say these things, but what is this Tea Party Movement for? I know they don’t like taxes or government (although they like their roads and sewers and police officers and military spending plenty). I know they don’t like health care reform (although I bet they like having hospitals nearby). They say they’re in favor of getting Big Brother out of their lives and in favor of individual rights and liberty, but they seem to make exceptions for women and gay people. The governm
ent should leave everybody alone except Muslims, who should be watched very closely.
Doesn’t sound like very much fun, does it? When I was marching (and dancing) in the streets, we were against the War in Viet Nam. We were against big government, too, especially the draft, which fed the afore mentioned war. However, we were in favor of all kinds of things. Civil rights for everybody. Free speech. Comic books. Sex, drugs and rock’n’roll.
I mean, really, what do you think would be more fun?
• Having sex with this guy or this guy?
• This woman or this woman?
The award-winning film, Milk is in heavy rotation on the various HBO stations lately, so I’ve seen it (especially James Franco’s nude swim scene) many times. One of the most important lessons learned by the lead character, Harvey Milk, in his early campaigns for elected office is that “It’s not enough to be against something. You’ve got to give them hope.” Hippies and Yippies knew that. Abbie Hoffman tossed money from the Stock Exchange. They tried to levitate the Pentagon and exorcise the demons. They didn’t just protest the war, but offered a fun alternative (“Make love, not war.”)
These Tea Party gangs? If they have any ideas, they’re not doing a great job of getting them out there. Sarah Palin suggesting everybody reload really doesn’t do much for me.
Martha Thomases, Media Goddess, believes that if sex isn’t anti-authoritarian and anarchistic, you’re not doing it right.
John Tebbel
April 3, 2010 - 7:08 am
This bulletin just in from the League of Comic Strip Pedants: It was an untrustworthy narrator in the person of Zonker who remarked upon the superficial connections between the two dis-organizations and the colorful but ultimately distracting and self defeating talismans they would both affect.
The teabaggers are non-productive reactionaries, ready to pull up the ladder the second someone smarter, younger or darker is ready for a turn at the wheel. They thought their middle class life was bought without struggle. They forgot that it was liberal ideology that freed them from the 78 hour work week and the pre social security regime, the county poor house.
The left-based resistance to the War in Vietnam led to the elimination of conscription, and a global re-thinking of the post-colonial politics that brought you the more palatable situation now in Afghanistan and, sadly, the mess in Iraq. (A standing volunteer army is just as likely to be used for mischief as a standing conscript army.) The teabaggers lost their issue, reminded everyone why they were dangerous and stupid and a menace even to the Republican operatives who thought they could ride this paper tiger. Can you say Third Party Candidate?
Mike Gold
April 3, 2010 - 7:46 am
As a Yippie! who was there, then, I’ll give you my perspective.
Trudeau has a point, and it’s a point I’ve been uttering in sundry responses here on MWD all week. Both have in common the concept of posturing a political movement as a party, as something that’s fun, is a great organizing tactic. It spreads like wildfire, attracting people who were not particularly known for their interest in political activism. Now the Yips and the Tea Baggers evidently differ in our concept of fun and I remain committed to sex’n’drugs’n’rock’n’roll while they seem to like … I dunno, tea, I guess, and not the Leigh French sense of the word (if you’re under 50, don’t bother Goggling her; read David Bianculli’s book about the Smothers Brothers instead). But that’s what makes America great: I like George Carlin, they like Red Skelton. Se la vie, motherfucker.
By the way, Martha, you win the award for best use of a Lenny Bruce routine of the month. “Lena Horne or Kate Smith?” Ha! Ask Strom Thurmond!
Mike Gold
April 3, 2010 - 7:48 am
Oh, and the Yips were by and large pro gun. When it comes to violent imagery, the Tea Baggers have nothing on us.
pennie
April 3, 2010 - 3:13 pm
It’s old-fart time! Wooo-hooooo!
Home again. (I) like Mike was Yipping along with the Diggers, Abbie, Ben Morea, Joanie Jet and Hugh Romney. Dancing in the Street with Martha (Thomases/Reeves) AND the Vandellas.
Martha’s right. It was fun, political, uplifting, meaningful and a great way to meet chicks (or guys). The baggers seem to want to coalesce around something/anything but they feel disenfranchised. They are homophobic. They are racist (tell me that adopted birther bullshit is not racist).
Mike’s right. How does this differ from the baggers? We’ll there’s that meaningful part. Yeah, that. We did change the world. Despite my misgivings, these retro-not-so-misfits might just do the same if they had any sense of leadership beyond the Pale-in.
John’s right. And third-party candidates have done so well lately…but, if these negative nabobs find someone more charismatic and intelligent than Joe the Dumber, Sean Hannity, and Sarah Lee, then things could get interesting.
Look at all those arrests in Michigan and Ohio this week. these guys aren’t kidding. “No way to delay that trouble coming everday,” eh, Frank?
Howard Cruse
April 3, 2010 - 5:41 pm
One of the hard truth I had to face up to way back when was that a lot of hippies and protesters were there because a party was happening in the streets and it was a good chance to let off steam and feel righteous. Just like at the Tea Parties.
That’s not why I was there, and it wasn’t why loads of people I admired then and continuer to admire now were there. For me and many others (and obviously for you, Martha) the tumult was about things that were substantive and transportive. It came as a shock when so many of my long-haired, bell bottoms-wearing compatriots in the counterculture peeled away because a new party had started happening: Reaganism.
The ideals remain. They just require more stamina than it seemed when we were part of what seemed like a huge and irresistible wave.
Trudeau was satirizing the partying aspect of both protest-oriented phenomena. And I agree with John: Zonker’s the last person to turn to for a sober assessment of the party at hand.
MOTU
April 3, 2010 - 7:23 pm
I like gay people, I like women, I like guns, I like health care, I’m sure if I went hunting I’d like that but i’m not crazy about shooting anything that can’t shoot back. But I have no problem with people that hunt. I’m for a women’s right to choose, I’m for the death penalty, I’m for welfare to work programs, I’m for midnight basketball programs, I’m a ( no kidding ) card carrying member of the NRA. I’m as proud as shit of being an American.
My point in stating all of the above is I have some VERY conservative views. I’m a member in good standing of a group that voted against the man I voted for, Obama. Why am I a member of the NRA? Because of tragic events in my life I believe in the right to bare arms and there is no better place to be educated about guns than the NRA.
I’m also a product of government programs and I can honestly say if not for some of those programs and my mom I would be dead or in jail. In fact I SHOULD be dead considering I’ve had a gun fired at my head at point blank range. I’m only alive because the gun misfired or jammed and the guy had to run because he feared the cops were coming.
You would think that incident would have dropped me firmly on the gun control side of the issue. Nope-the guy that tried to kill me was the problem the gun was just his tool. Yeah, i’m one of those people who think ‘Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.’ Actually its people with guns that kill people but that’s a small point. Trust me if I would have had a gun that day I would have shot that bastard the moment his gun went ‘click’ and no bullet came out. I pity the person who tries a home invasion robbery at my house. I’ve got guns, dogs, jewish lawyers and a score to settle like Bruce Wayne had after his parents got killed. So come on in Mr. DOA welcome to your last and my best day of life.
OK all that smack talking aside and back to my point-I have some strong, VERY strong conservative view. Here is why I’m NOT a conservative. I’ve said many times, I don’t care what you do, who you screw, rather you worship Jesus, Buddha,Allah, or Gary Coleman. I don’t care if you like girls, boys,both or you belong to the ‘no pussy for me’ club. I don’t care if you are pro choice, right to life or married to your sister.
That’s your life, have at it. But DO NOT tell me it’s your or no way at all. The GOP and the conservative tea party movement is a movement where no one is allowed to differ from the party line. That’s what the fucking Nazi’s did. Sarah Palin STILL uses that ‘real american’ line. WTF?
Am I not a real American because I didn’t kill fucking a Moose?
Am I not a real American because I’m OK with HEALTH CARE?
Am I not a real American because I think that Gay people should have the right to marry and be as miserable as other married couples?
Am I not a real American because I don’t think like you think?
If that’s your ‘real’ America Mr.and Mrs. Tea Party then have at it like I said, just don’t think I’m going to follow you just because you said so.
A dog will follow you just on your say so, so maybe that’s why most Tea Baggers are Palin’s, Beck’s, and Limbaug’s bitches.
Vinnie Bartilucci
April 3, 2010 - 8:29 pm
The people at the rallies are just scared in general. They’ve been whipped into a frenzy, a sort of inchoate jitteriness that they can’t quite focus. And anyone who interacts with them gets cut off at the ankles like a trailer park in a tornado. And tornadoes don’t build, they only destroy.
They don’t have any better ideas, tho they do think the Republicans have them.
The current tack that Rush and co are taking is that the Democrats are demonizing the Teabaggers as a bunch of redneck yahoos who no rational person would want to be associate themselves with. He’s right, with one important codicil; they’re doing the lion’s share of the bad press themselves. Nobody’s making those signs up in Photoshop and pasting them into people’s hands. People are coming up with them all on their own, practicing their right of freedom of spelling, one which is not guaranteed by the Constitution.
Now, not ALL the people at those rallies are linguistically challenged, just as not all the people who shop at Wal-Mart deserve to be featured on “People of Wal-Mart”. But as a people, we tend to pigeonhole a group based on its most visible and obvious characteristics. The mean IQ at a science fiction convention may be 146 and the average income over $75,000 but nobody’s noticing that when they’re looking at the picture of the fat guy in the Klingon costume.
If there’s one film that people need to go watch to get a new perspective on this mess, it’s _Meet John Doe_. The John Doe party is an eerie parallel to the Tea Party movement with an important difference. The John Doe clubs were truly organic creations that the big businessmen tried to take over and control. The tea party movement was carefully cultivated from day one, unknown to the lion’s share of its membership. But in both cases, its membership will bristle when trying to be unified. They will be harder to herd than cats with ADHD. They’ve largely taken the massage “The OBAMA Government is evil” and generalized it to mean “The Government is Evil”. The Health care issue has been made radioactive – the Republicans won’t be able to do anything to it other than try to shut it down. They’ll never be able to get the baggers to grasp that SOME bits of health care reform are good ideas.
They’re not gonna be able to be talked down. We can only hope their aim is bad and run outta bullets, metaphorically (I hope) speaking.
Reg
April 3, 2010 - 9:03 pm
I’ve got just one thing to say…. I sure as heck hope that some of you very brilliant and sane people consider running for public office. The ship of state desperately needs some help with her rudder.
MOTU
April 3, 2010 - 9:55 pm
Vinnie,
I’m scared also my friend. I’m scared that people’s fear will become something beyond fear. I’m scared the fear will be replaced with a ‘it’s either them, or it’s us’ mentality and 2010 becomes 1950. Joseph McCarthy is alive and well in people like Beck, Palin and anyone else who wants to scare people into thinking they should fear me because I’m black or fear my friend Gary because he’s gay or fear my ex-wife because she’s Cuban.
The party line of some in the GOP and Tea party is fear.
Fear makes people do stupid, violent things.
That to me is scary as hell.
pennie
April 4, 2010 - 5:28 am
Howard, I agree that some of the people in the swelling street crowds were less dedicated to protesting against social ills and the Vietnam War while supporting Civil, Women and Gay Rights.
While I was trying to be somewhat humorous, I agree that the desire to be cool, part of a popular experience, then getting those endorphins sparked by running wild in the streets was the motivation.
Thrill is gone? Onto the next big thing. Or not. Settle into mediocrity, the pretense of “normalcy,” or disappear into the ether. Some (like those of us here) stuck. Our initial plunge into these causes was part of a greater fabric enveloping our lives.
Have I changed much since those heady days? Maybe in some ways but nothing meaningful or substantial. I’m still consumed by the credo of “Make Love, Not War.” I still actively campaign on a daily basis for those causes I did back then. The basic thought that we are all equal, deserving of the same rights and respect, no matter what category (other than those who would harm any of us)–that forms the central core value of who I am, and what I do in life.
As noted here, the baggers are scared and reacting from fear. They want an America and world that will never exist again–and that isn’t such a bad thing for the rest of us. The–“if you’re not for us, you’re the enemy” isn’t a new platform. Their world is simple, narrow, and defined by colonial values.
Take most of us who contribute on this site–Does anyone here think we would be accepted at these events? “Problem” is we may not agree on everything but we possess the ability to think, reason, debate, and discuss. From my observation post along the watchtower, it appears those qualities are sorely lacking by the baggers.
I would ask them that perennial question: What’s so funny about peace, love and understanding?
They might not get it.
Mike Gold
April 4, 2010 - 6:50 am
MOTU sez: “Am I not a real American because I didn’t kill fucking a Moose? Am I not a real American because I’m OK with HEALTH CARE? Am I not a real American because I think that Gay people should have the right to marry and be as miserable as other married couples? Am I not a real American because I don’t think like you think?”
No, you’re not a real American because you’re black. Killing a moose ain’t gonna change that, although they ARE butt-ugly. Fact is, how many black tea baggers have you seen?
Pennie: Now we’re doing Nick Lowe lines? Fine. I’m up for that. I love the sound of breaking glass. Especially in the morning. Wasn’t thrilled with it during one of the Weathermen temper tantrums, but over all it’s a pleasant sound.
pennie
April 4, 2010 - 7:31 am
MOTU and Mike: Yeah, that. MOTU, you’re black which immediately disqualifies you. Mike, you’re Jewish and therefore akin to a heathen. That with all of your social and political and creative associations disqualifies you. Me, I stand as much chance as Anais Nin combined with Circe and Audre Lorde (not familiar, google her).
MOTU: I may not agree with all of your stances, (and what thinking person there would agree with ALL of those of anyone else?) but the basic, underlying thread running throughout them is your devotion to the sanctity of human life. Anyone who misses that should immediately begin remedial philosophical therapy.
Mike: Breaking glass and all, you’re familiar my affection for sprinkling musical references into everything I touch. More the merrier. Martha and I have spent a lifetime of e-mails doing this. I believe none here need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows…
And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price
You have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice…
Mike Gold
April 4, 2010 - 8:37 am
Pennie: Ahhh, don’t think twice. It’s all right.
pennie
April 4, 2010 - 8:54 am
}’;>)
I simply sing a simple song…
Mike Gold
April 4, 2010 - 9:17 am
Sing it mama! Got to sing it!
(Thought you were being Sly, huh?)
pennie
April 4, 2010 - 9:39 am
Sly? Not I…
I just wanna thank you(Faletinmebemicelf), okay…
pennie
April 4, 2010 - 10:08 am
Now, back to our regularly scheduled show…
Apr 4, 12:33 PM EDT
White supremacist’s killing a ‘declaration of war’
By MICHELLE FAUL
Associated Press Writer
VENTERSDORP, South Africa (AP) — A top member of a South African white supremacist group said Sunday that the slaying of their leader was “a declaration of war” by blacks against whites, as the president appealed for calm amid growing racial tensions in the once white-led country.
Andre Visagie of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging movement, better known as the AWB, said the group would also urge soccer teams to avoid the upcoming World Cup tournament in South Africa out of safety concerns. He said the group would avenge the Saturday death of leader Eugene Terreblanche, but did not give details.
“The death of Mr. Terreblanche is a declaration of war by the black community of South Africa to the white community that has been killed for ten years on end,” Visagie said. He echoed other members of the group in blaming a fiery youth leader for spreading hate speech that he believes led to his killing.
The ruling African National Congress disputed Visagie’s statement.
“The black community has never declared war on any other nationality in South Africa,” ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu told The Associated Press. “It is in fact incorrect and these are sentiments that fuel polarization of the South African populace.”
Mike Gold
April 4, 2010 - 12:54 pm
Yeah, well, there goes my plans on visiting South Africa.
That’s a whole continent that’s in deep, deep shit, and hardly anybody in America gives a damn. What’s been happening in the D.R. Congo is as bad as anything that happened on this planet in 65 years. BBC News calls it “World War Africa.”
MOTU
April 4, 2010 - 5:18 pm
In lighter news…
I DO so love me some Sly And The Family Stone. One of the best dance songs in the HISTORY of dance songs is ‘Dance To The Music’.
I do so like o shake my tail feather to that track.
Reg
April 4, 2010 - 5:36 pm
mOTu, with all due respect…. The GREATEST dance song in history is…
I Wanna Take You Higher!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYrz5y1mW5U (The Woodstock version) or… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfydfBXlByk&feature=related
I don’t care whether you’re old or new school…If you don’t move to that jam….George Romero has a role for you.
Martha Thomases
April 5, 2010 - 5:53 am
Why don’t we do it in the road?
Mike Gold
April 5, 2010 - 6:24 am
Martha: Too many potholes. At my age, I’ve got to protect my knees. But thanks for the offer.
Martha Thomases
April 5, 2010 - 6:34 am
@Mike: My knees are okay. It’s the waiting that’s the hardest part.
Mike Gold
April 5, 2010 - 8:49 am
Martha: How true…
Reg
April 7, 2010 - 10:17 pm
Wowzers…Between the nutcase (thankfully) arrested for advocating really negative actions against the nation’s Speaker, and the good ol’ boy Gov. of VA issuing a decree designating April as CONFEDERATE HISTORY MONTH…the GOP has officially turned America into the Land of the Criminally Insane and the Monumentally Stoopid.
Confederate History Month.
I repeat. Wow.
Mike Gold
April 8, 2010 - 5:42 am
Actually, he REinstated Confederate History Month. It was off the calendar for about eight years.
Like I said, if they can’t let it go, we should reconsider and let them go. They want the CSA, fine. Go be the CSA.
mike weber
April 8, 2010 - 8:13 pm
Mike: I will point out that
(A) There are a large number of things that i would miss if the South seceded (successfully) – most of the space program, for one thing, Research Triangle in Raleigh-Durham NC, and Norcross, Georgia, which is/was pretty close to Silicon Valley East.
(B) and i’d miss New Orleans
and,
(C) I’d have to figure out how to Get Kate to move north, up where that Nasty White Stuff is more common, because i sure wouldn’t be staying in the New Confederacy