The Christian Candidate, by Mike Gold – Brainiac On Banjo #185
August 30, 2010 Mike Gold 0 Comments
If you’re reading this Monday morning, then I assume you’re awake. That’s probably one-up on me, as I should be in bed after driving back from the Baltimore Comic-Con. So I’m writing this Wednesday night, a tad earlier than usual. Just in case something happened in the interim.
Earlier today I listened to Pat Buchanan, über-conservative, columnist, wag, former Nixonite, and former conservative presidential candidate. And he sounds scared shitless – over Sarah Palin. He makes a good case for why she would get the Republican presidential nomination, should we remain frozen in time between today and the 2012 primaries.
Pat’s focusing on the fact that Palin’s not running as a Republican, not as a tea bagger, not as a conservative, but as a Christian Woman (double-caps intentional). Palin’s got the support of 76% of all Republicans polled by Gallup a month ago – and that’s 11 points higher than the runner-up. The poll was before her victories in last week’s primaries; having shown to have coat-tails, it is logical to assume she’s even more popular now.
Is that what the Republican Party has come down to? Has religious freedom deteriorated so badly that a pathetically ignorant candidate who treats every question of substance as an attack against her gender, her race, her faith, and America’s founding fathers can command the lion’s share of support in her party? Really?
54% of Republicans, as opposed to 27% of Democrats, have a negative view of Islam. They say they like Freedom of Religion, but they don’t want to allow Muslims the same right to build their house of worship under the same terms they grant to Christians. I’d say Jews as well, but fellow columnist Martha Thomases headed that off in an email to me noting a 1999 effort to prevent building a synagogue in New Rochelle, New York, the suburban home of Robert Petrie. But even a great many of those who claim they do not have a negative view of Islam are opposed to the location of a mosque near the World Trade Center and that is a clear-cut position in opposition to Freedom of Religion. If you think the mosque – funded by the second largest shareholder in Fox News, oddly enough – shouldn’t be built there, then you are a bigot, pure and simple.
And you do not understand what the American democracy is all about. The Bill of Rights was written and passed in order to protect the rights of the minorities, and without the Bill of Rights the Constitution would not have been ratified. That’s historical fact. In other words, if 54% of all Americans felt that blacks should be sent back to Africa, that doesn’t mean blacks can be sent back to Africa. If 54% of all Americans feel Jews should be put to death for killing their savior and starting the Plague, that doesn’t mean that Jews can be put to death in America.
Running as a Christian Woman, Sarah Palin is running as a blatant bigot. By backing her by such an astonishing margin, the Republican Party has defined itself as a bigoted party.
That used to be un-American, you know.
Media metaphysician and www.ComicMix.com editor-in-Chief Mike Gold performs the weekly two-hour Weird Sounds Inside The Gold Mind ass-kicking bizarro music and blather radio show on The Point, www.getthepointradio.com, every Sunday at 7:00 PM Eastern, replayed three times during the week (check the website above for times). Likewise, his Weird Scenes Inside The Gold Mind political and cultural rants pop up each and every day at the same venue.
Martha Thomases
August 30, 2010 - 8:58 am
For those who would like to read that article, here’s the link: http://forward.com/articles/129998/
Vinnie Bartilucci
August 30, 2010 - 10:16 am
“a 1999 effort to prevent building a synagogue in New Rochelle, New York, the suburban home of Robert Petrie.”
That’s just ridiculous. Did they expect Jerry and Millie to drive all the way to the next town?
“the Republican Party has defined itself as a bigoted party”
Let’s see if she actually gets the nom before we go that far. The party right now is thinking about getting the White House back by the proverbial Any Means Necessary. If someone better and more charismatic comes along, they’ll drop Sarah like a hot rock. But time’s running out.
She’d make a fine VP, as it’s largely powerless. Look at Biden-he’s got his share of malaprops and damnfoolery. The VP role is largely a safe place to park someone, as the odds of them rising to power via the passing of the POTUS is unlikely enough to take the gamble. Yes we all shivered in our booties at the thought of President Quayle, but it never happened.
Sad as it is, right now the Presidency has degenerated to a popularity and Q-rating contest. You’ll have a large number of people who’ll be voting “Not that guy/party” but a lot will base it on the beer parameter, or the who’s cuter test. I honestly can’t recall the last campaign that ran on “here is what I plan to do” , as opposed to “Look how bad they did” or “Whee, I can play the saxophone”.
Face in the Crowd re-ran on TCM last week. I ADORE this movie. Andy Griffith, as TV superstar Lonesome Rhodes, is asked to give television training to a senator that the wealthy elite had decided would make a good president. The scene is chilling, as they talk about how the public wants catchphrases over content, and how he should own a dog over a cat, as they trend better with people. This is a fifty-plus year-old film, and it’s amazingly relevant today.
I got to talk to Patricia Neal some years back, and while everyone else went on about Day The Earth Stood Still (which was shown just preceding) I went on about her role in Crowd, and she beamed at the thought that someone had remembered the film.
Mike Gold
August 30, 2010 - 10:26 am
First of all, props to getting to speak to Patricia Neal about Face In The Crowd, a movie so brilliant it’s the ONLY exception I make to my Kazan-Is-A-Rat-Bastard campaign.
Second, Jerry and Millie lived on the border with Larchmont, next to Joan Rivers’ parents’ house. This explains a lot. But Will Eisner lived in New Roshelle, and I’m still trying to figure that one out.
Third, the VP position is important. Just ask Gerry Ford and Lyndon Johnson. And Bush Senior. And, by extension, Bush Junior.
There’s little out there on the political scene (except Glenn Beck eating Sarah Palin’s brains live on Fox) that would thrill me more than the traditional Republicans seizing their party back. In this, they have proven themselves as spineless and as whoremongering as the Democrats.
However, I must point out that presently we HAVE a Republican president. No shit. Obama’s not Marxist, he’s not Muslim, he’s a Rockefeller Republican.
Finally,
Mike Gold
August 30, 2010 - 10:28 am
Oops. Sorry. “Finally” was a lead-in to “ain’t ‘Glenn Beck eating Sarah Palin’s brains live on Fox’ fuckin’ awesome?
Rick Oliver
August 30, 2010 - 12:27 pm
Veeps are, indeed, important. Add Teddy Roosevelt to the list.
A month ago I thought the takeover of the Republican party by the extreme right wing would be a plus for Democrats, since I thought the 20% of Republicans with more reasonable views would not be willing to vote for the whacko candidates their party dredged up for them. But a recent poll in Nevada showed Sharron Angle almost tied with Harry Reid, even though a majority of Republicans said they would have preferred a different candidate. And I think Rand Paul is still polling ahead of the Democratic candidate in Kentucky.
Meanwhile, in Illinois, neither candidate is polling well. Voters seem equally unenthusiastic about both Alexi Giannoulias and Mark Kirk.
As for Obama, words cannot express my disappointment.
John Tebbel
August 30, 2010 - 2:25 pm
Rick, and all the ships at sea–
Lets not be so disappointed we don’t finish the job by electing some more senators, a body still controlled by Republicans. Democrats are better at policy (complicated) than control. Pity that, sometimes.
The President has to be prepared to fight dirty to get any and every measure through that body. Not always effective. Always a disgusting spectacle.
Same thing happened to JFK, then it was the House Rules committee in the hands of the Dixiecrats.
We would know we were really in the dumpity dumper if things happened as fast as they happened in FDR’s first time. Be glad there’s still a few minutes on the clock.
Or does everyone swallow the GOP talking point about huge this and dramatic that? I hope not.
Anyone who is feeling disappointed would do well to make sure everyone they know who turned out for Obama keeps their part of the bargain and votes in each and every national election for the rest of their lives!
R. Maheras
August 30, 2010 - 3:15 pm
Mike wrote: “If you think the mosque – funded by the second largest shareholder in Fox News, oddly enough – shouldn’t be built there, then you are a bigot, pure and simple.”
Mike, that’s not just hyperbole; it’s just plain wrong.
Just because the Constitution grants me the right to cuss out anyone in public if they do something I disagree with, or I just plain don’t like them, does not mean it’s the prudent and civilized thing to do.
Look at that tiny, but annoying, religious sect that shows up at military funerals and says all kinds of nasty things to the grieving friends and family members. The Constitution gives them the right to do what they are doing, but that doesn’t make it the right thing to do.
And your anti-Republican stance rings hollow because more than a quarter of Democrats admit to having the same feelings (and I’ll wager the number is actually higher because many Democrats have been conditioned by the PC police over the years to say what they’re supposed to say, rather than what they really believe).
Building the mosque (or community center, or whatever it’s being called) where it’s being built is insensitive to the families of the 9-11 victims.
Yeah, it’s legal, but it ain’t right.
New York should follow the lead of the Pentagon and construct an all-faiths chapel on the site.
Mike Gold
August 30, 2010 - 4:00 pm
We’re just going to have to disagree about this, Russ. The difference between the Muslims building a mosque and cultural center wherever they want and anti-gay religious zealots harassing mourners is that one is in public land open to anybody for any legal reason, the other is by definition sanctified land upon to anybody for the purpose of mourning. Public intent vs. private intent. But, like I said, we disagree and, you know, that’s cool.
Don’t know why we’re arguing anyway. If they do build the joint, some right wing all-American nutcase is just going to bomb it.
As for my alleged anti-Republican stance, I have before, currently and next week criticized Democrats. As I noted above, I honestly believe we have a Republican in office as president right now.
Which means them Real Republicans should protect their party from those 80,000 assholes (which has been pumped up to over a million) who showed up in Washington to piss on Lincoln’s grave and King’s grave this weekend. THEY seem to be the ACTUAL Republicans these days. And they’re taking over the party, dude.
Rick Oliver
August 30, 2010 - 4:21 pm
Well, since we’re getting rid of hyperbole, let’s make it clear that the “site” is not “ground zero”. It’s two blocks away, and you can’t even see the WTC site from there.
Furthermore (and ironically), in addition to the constitutional issue, the Republican congress in 2000 passed the “Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act” which was specifically intended to protect the rights of minority or unpopular religions to establish houses of worship, just in case anyone was unclear on the intent of the constitution.
Just how far away from ground zero would you consider not “insensitive to the families of the 9-11 victims”? And should we convert all the churches in the same area to “all-faiths” chapels?
I’ve frequently noted that I’m no fan of Islam, but Islam didn’t fly two planes into the WTC. A handful of religious extremists did that, and Islam doesn’t have a monopoly on those.
Doug Abramson
August 30, 2010 - 9:04 pm
Building the Park 51 project is insensitive to which families of 911 victims? The ones that have spoke out against the project, the ones that have spoken out in support of it, or the seemingly majority of them who don’t want to be used as a political football anymore and are staying out of it?
Marc Fishman
August 30, 2010 - 10:27 pm
In the era of the 24 hour news cycle, where information is power, and the power is corrupt at the source… Neither party is doing a good job. Both wussy ass democrats and venom spewing republicans treat politics like high-school elections on a grand scale. Sarah Palin gains ground because she’s a walking sqwaking sound byte. The dumber she sounds? The more erect the right gets for her. The more congress and our president grind at each other, and snipe at each other, and fight to NOT move this country out of the literal mile of shit that Bush Jr. buried us under only adds to the coming three ring circus.
Remember back in 2000, when Clinton tried handing the reigns of the country to Gore, and then in the popular vote… Gore won? Well, I agree with Patton Oswalt. After that, we ended up on another Earth… where Bush Jr. still gets the presidency all because the far right christain nut jobs get their pants wet over a blowjob.
I’m personally sick of how much worse it gets day to day. When my generation has to turn to stand up comedians for their news, and not in an ironic way… it’s a sign of the times we live in.
I once asked my father what it was like, back when people respected the president… when turning him into an SNL sketch would have been outta the question. His retort? “Eh… no better than it is now, but you had to wait until 6 o’clock for the BS to hit the TV.”
Martha Thomases
August 31, 2010 - 6:21 am
@Russ: While I understand your point of view, I don’t think moving the location of the Islamic center will change anything. As this story (http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-08-29-arson28_ST_N.htm) shows, even distances of hundreds of miles are considered too close by some.
John Tebbel
August 31, 2010 - 6:45 am
Ground Zero Mosque. Ground Zero Mosque. Ground Zero Mosque. Ground Zero Mosque. Ground Zero Mosque.
Hey, it’s getting truer already. I love the internet!
Mike Gold
August 31, 2010 - 8:58 am
John, quite frankly the entire “ground zero” thing offend me. Was the Pentagon “ground one”? The White House “ground two”?
Rick’s comment that the mosque is two blocks away is more important than it might seem to some. In Manhattan (with the curious exception of Greenwich Village) every block is a different neighborhood. Some are dangerous, some are less so. Some have an ethnic and/or racial predominance, some do not. In the case of the block where Park 51 would be built (evidently on Earth-Two), you’ve got a rundown block of for sale buildings. It was a crappy block before Giuliani Day, it’s a crappier block now.
The existence of a mosque there or anyplace else is not inconsiderate. As the developer of Park 51 said, he didn’t attack the World Trade Center, and his faith did not attack the World Trade Center.
If we REALLY believed in showing the victims of the WTC bombing some respect, we would have rebuilt the WTC property years ago.
Rick Oliver
August 31, 2010 - 10:15 am
Let’s not lose sight of the real purpose of the loud, public Republican outrage over the “ground zero mosque”: It’s a great distraction from real issues that they could actually do something about, if they weren’t busy being the “no” party. They might just as well declare their moral indignation over the weather…which the won’t do because their official position is that the weather if fine.
R. Maheras
August 31, 2010 - 12:03 pm
Mike wrote: “If we REALLY believed in showing the victims of the WTC bombing some respect, we would have rebuilt the WTC property years ago.”
My sentiments exactly! Someone in NYC should have gotten a swift kick in the ass a long time ago.
The Pentagon’s outdoor memorial went through a lengthy design competition, yet was still built and open to the public by Sept. 11, 2008.
What’s NYC’s problem?
Mike Gold
August 31, 2010 - 12:05 pm
Russ asked: “What’s NYC’s problem?”
PLEASE tell me that’s a rhetorical question.
MOTU
August 31, 2010 - 12:38 pm
When I was at Milestone we were attacked over and over mostly by a competing company called Ania. Competing is really not the right word. Saying Ania was competing with Milestone is like saying skateboards compete with Lear Jets.
They gave interviews where they called us ‘House niggers ‘ because of our deal with DC Comic…(must… avoid…obvious… bad joke.) I was LIVID! If you think I’m a bit over the top now you should have seen me in the old days when I was just a straight out motherfucker. The smallest thing would make me nuts and this Ania thing was a big thing. The Company Line was to ignore them. I voted to have them killed on TV during Comic Con but I was voted down. The more we ignored the worst it got. Finally I had had enough-at a Milestone panel we were asked about Ania and one of my partners gave a really elegant answer, part of his answer was that there was room for everybody.
When he was finished I said, Ania’s books SUCK’. Which brought a round of applause and laugher.From then if asked a question about Ania I would be as raw as possible when saying how I thought those books suck and I am no body’s nigger.
My long winded point is this, “The mosque –funded by the second largest shareholder in Fox News??????
WTF WTF WTF WTF W H A T T H E F U C K ???
Where are the Democratic ATTACK DOGS and WHY are they not YELLING this from every media outlet on the planet??
I know, I know, don’t stoop to the level of people who are clearly in the wrong. That’s just bullshit. My mother told me a long time ago if someone calls you out- you DO stoop to their level long enough to CRUSH THEM then ascend back to your level.
Sarah Palin only has the juice she has because the GOP is fucking loud and people are stupid. I’ll say it again, the GOP is loud and people are stupid.
I, on the other hand am not stupid.
Sarah Palin scares me, not because she’s incompetent but because she thinks she IS competent. The GOP has convinced people that she would be good for this country.
The GOP Party is just that, a party. At that party Sarah Palin is drunk out of her fucking mind but she is convinced she can drive. The GOP not only let’s her drive knowing full well that she is wasted but they tell the rest of the people at the party that’s she’s fine and the people believe it.
Stupid.
And yet she may be the next President.
Dangerous.
John Tebbel
August 31, 2010 - 12:52 pm
Mike: You’re right, its nuts. The term refers to the “ground zero” starting point from which bomb effects are measured. In this case it strikes me as a chicken hawk mis-appropriation of military terminology by courageous anchormen and aldermen.
In re the World Trade Center site:
NYC’s problem is David Rockefeller. After he completed a new HQ for his Chase bank in lower Manhattan he looked up from his chow-dah to notice that his was the only new building around. Rather than be all alone he ginned up the World Trade Center meme.
It had no commercial potential so it was built by one of the quasi-governmental (tyrannical) authorities we can’t do without around here. In this case, the Port of New York-New Jersey Authority. They built it (on the cheap, on the edge of technology) and no one came. The state government put lots of its offices there to fill the blanks. They struggled for decades down there, a huge company went bankrupt trying to do the World Financial Center next door.
It had nothing to do with World Trade except the name on the door and maybe some wishful thinking. It was not central to the life of New York City. It looked great on a postcard and thus attracted the numb-nuts insane posse that blew it down. Like the sounding waterwheel attracted the snake in “The Green Wall.”
Just before that dastardly crime, the Authority had finally managed to unload the place on a private investor. When it was pushed down, there was no economic muscle to put it back up again. We really didn’t and don’t need all that office space down there.
The insurance settlement took forever. The Authority wasn’t buying it back, so, without your unlimited tax dollars to do the job, that building was not going up any time soon.
It’s not the Washington Monument, it’s just another capitalist flim flam. Apply directly to the forehead. Anyone who needs an office in Manhattan can find one.
Decent political leadership would have put in a park, but that’s not butch enough for Rudy, Michael and George. David Rockefeller is 95 and worth almost three billion dollars.
Mike Gold
August 31, 2010 - 12:59 pm
Yeah, Palin could be the next President. But it won’t be the Republicans who get her elected, it will be extreme fear and paranoia — as propagated by the so-called libertarians (“Keep the government’s hands off of my Medicare!”) and the Christian Nation and its many fellow travelers.
The Republicans lost control of the Republican party. The Palin-People don’t need McConnell, Cantor and Boehner; only the media support those fools. The Tea Baggers have been methodically chasing the Republicans out of the limelight for a year now. They’re very good at it.
And Sarah’s their poster girl. If they think she can get elected, she will get the nomination of the Republican party solely because the Tea Baggers and Chrtisian Nation and the so-called libertarians and the Objectivists do not have their own party. The GOP is now nothing more than a shell company for these people.
And the Republicans allowed it to happen by sucking up to these American terrorists.
Mike Gold
August 31, 2010 - 1:03 pm
John — Hey, does David have any unmarried granddaughters?
Vinnie Bartilucci
August 31, 2010 - 1:22 pm
“Look at that tiny, but annoying, religious sect that shows up at military funerals and says all kinds of nasty things to the grieving friends and family members. The Constitution gives them the right to do what they are doing, but that doesn’t make it the right thing to do.”
And yet no one is preventing Christian churches to be built because of their actions. Because people are usually able to delineate between a small number of members of a group and the group as a whole.
Except, alas, where Muslims are concerned.
Too many people cannot separate “Muslim” and Terrorist”. They are used interchangeably far too often. Maybe it’s because, like the Japanese in WWII, they’re usually easy to identify.
I’ve yet to hear an argument from the anti-Park 51 camp that holds any water, or doesn’t boil down to “But they’re MUSLIMS!!!” And while I am wholly respectful of the feelings of the families, it’s still based in the inability to separate the two concepts. And that’s a shame.
MOTU
August 31, 2010 - 2:37 pm
Vinnie said,
‘Look at that tiny, but annoying, religious sect that shows up at military funerals and says all kinds of nasty things to the grieving friends and family members.’
This is not a joke, I’m not trying to be funny and I’m deadly serious. I hope those sick motherfucking Jesus freaks show at a military funeral one day and members of the deceased family and friends beat the living shit out of them.
Let them try that shit at a funeral where the deceased is from Compton.
R. Maheras
August 31, 2010 - 3:00 pm
First, I’ve seen no evidence yet that Palin will ever get enough support to be elected president, so I think all of your “fear” is misplaced.
Second, there is no candidate yet on the radar — Republican or Democrat — who has enough popular support to unseat what is fast becoming a very unpopular president. Obama reminds me so much of Jimmy Carter, it’s scary. But while Carter ran up against a Reagan, there is no “Reagan-esque” threat yet in the offing for Obama.
No matter what many on the left fear, Palin ceased being a serious threat when she quit her governorship. And while she remains popular, deep down Americans can’t abide a quitter. Just ask Ross Perot, who was leading in the polls when he quit the race in 1992, and even though a few weeks later he said “Oh, wait, I changed my mind,” he never came close to recovering — despite the fact that he, too, remained popular.
Mike Gold
August 31, 2010 - 3:13 pm
You’re absolutely right — there’s nobody on the horizon that can defeat Obama. You’re also absolutely right — Obama’s support is declining. Two years is a hell of a long time in politics and he can turn it around. He can also make it worse. He’s counting on the Republicans continuing to panic and acting in progressively more extreme ways.
Which legitimizes Palin. Her support right this moment is in the same realm as many other successful candidates two years out: Carter, Clinton, and Obama. If the economy gets a lot worse, if unemployment goes up or foreclosures go up, more folks are going to hit the panic button.
The Religious Right has already hit this button, and Palin’s playing along quite nicely. As I’ve said before, no matter how unlikely she may look 26 months out, history gives her a decent shot.
But the Democrats have back-up. Could Sarah beat Hilary?
Rick Oliver
August 31, 2010 - 4:18 pm
Unemployment will continue to rise. Foreclosures will continue to rise. Even if Obama had any substance, he could not have fixed the economy in four years. If Sharron Angle and Ron Paul can get elected to the U.S. Senate, then Sarah Palin can get elected president. The Koch brothers have a lot of money to spend. They don’t even need Rupert Murdoch or Richard Mellon Scaife.
Mike Gold
August 31, 2010 - 4:50 pm
Ah, so. The Koch Brothers. As evil as Cheney, but with even more money.
Did you see last week’s New Yorker? Yeah, I know, the name’s kinda off-putting, but the piece is fantastic.
And here it is: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
Rick Oliver
August 31, 2010 - 6:53 pm
Mike: I did, indeed, see the piece in the New Yorker (RSS feeds are great). Thanks for putting in the link for those who haven’t seen it yet.
And if someone wants to trot out the George Soros comparison, the difference is that Soros is very open and public about his political agenda, and his agenda is frequently at odds with his own financial best interests. The Koch brothers, OTOH, prefer to work behind the scenes, and by some miraculous coincidence their political agenda coincides perfectly with their financial interests.
John Tebbel
September 1, 2010 - 5:31 am
Mike–
There are loads of Rockefeller “cousins,” the children of the children of John D. Rockefeller, Jr., the son of the dynasty’s founder. There would be even more of the “second cousins,” their children. The problem is the fortune is becoming diluted.
Try volunteer work at their estate/park Pocantico Hills, or develop an expertise in Chinese decorative arts.
Reg
September 2, 2010 - 2:52 pm
Interesting reading.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010
BTW… Matthew 7:16-17 answers the question….in the event that there still is one.
MOTU
September 5, 2010 - 1:57 pm
I don’t even know why we even care about these matters. We all know from watching TV and movies that there is always a Black President when the world faces the end of days.
Who is President now?
What year is the world coming to an end?
Duh.