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October 20, 2012 Martha Thomases 24 Comments

In last week’s column, the discussion veered away from my subject, Malala Yousafzai (who is reportedly doing well,so, yay!) and onto abortion and reproductive rights.

This is what happens in conversation.  I accept that.  I also accept that my views on abortion may not be your views.  The experiences you have had in your life may have led you to different conclusions.  This is the human condition.

For the purposes of this discussion, I’m not going to challenge anyone’s right to hold whatever opinion they hold.  I would hope that you, Constant Reader, will offer me the same courtesy.  You may oppose safe and legal access to abortion.  That’s your privilege as an American.

I support it.  That, too, is my privilege as an American.

Here’s the part I don’t understand.  Many people who oppose reproductive rights are single-issue voters.  They ignore whatever else a candidate or a political party might advocate because they are “pro-life.”  And yet, the political party they support, the Republican Party, is opposed to the Affordable Care Act (popularly called Obamacare).

This is on my mind because of a moving series of stories written by Nicholas Kristof for The New York Times.  He wrote about his college friend, Scott, who was diagnosed with cancer at a time when he could not afford health insurance.  I can relate, since I live in an area where a person who is unemployed, who needs to buy a policy as a single person (or family) can easily pay more than $100,000 a year.  Even for a single person (not a family), the cost exceeds the median national family income.

Scott’s medical bills exceeded half a million dollars.  As Kristof says, “Researchers have estimated that one American dies every 20 minutes for lack of health insurance.”

The Affordable Care Act will save lives.  The lives it will save are those of people who are already born, people that both pro- and anti-choice voters can agree are human life.  It seems to me that this is an area where we could achieve some kind of consensus.

Is the law perfect?  No, and I imagine we will disagree about what is wrong with it.  Speaking for myself, I would prefer a single-payer system, because the AFA keeps in place — in fact, benefits –our wasteful and expensive insurance industry.  Anti-choice people may object to the “choice” parts.  Again, it is not my intention here to argue these specific points.

Instead, I suggest that a person who is truly pro-life would vote for the Democrats.  Their policies may not be precisely what you believe (they certainly aren’t precisely what I believe), but, as near as I can tell, their policies benefit more lives.

Kristoff’s friend, Scott, died after he wrote his first piece on Sunday.  Between the publication of the first piece and the publication of the piece to which I link, Kristof, received thousands of e-mails, many of which claimed that Scott deserved to die.

So much for the sanctity of life.

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Martha Thomases, Media Goddess, is in Rhinebeck today, enjoying the leaves and the yarn.

 

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  1. Neil C.
    October 20, 2012 - 7:39 am

    Personally, I think the GOP is more like Darkseid, running on the platform of “Anti-Life,” no free will except what those in charge tell you to believe.

  2. Mike Gold
    October 20, 2012 - 10:53 am

    I cannot conceive of one single issue that would completely motivate my vote. First of all, I’m not that trusting: if I were opposed to abortion, would I trust Romney to continue to represent my view once in the White House? He’s flipped on that and virtually all other moderate positions he voiced as governor; how could I trust him to make that my sole reason for voting for him?

    (And before the Right always-right starts braying, yes, all politicians flip on issues from time to time. But completely irrespective of Romney’s views — whatever they may be if, indeed, he has any — Mitt is the master of the flip flop, unprecedented in my experience.)

    For example: if there was one issue that would completely motivate my vote, it would be evolution. Simply put, if you don’t think evolution exists then in my book you are far too stupid and far, far too much of a zealot to get my vote. But what if that candidate believably supported virtually every position on my top 10 list, and his competition only supported, say, half? At the very least, I would think it over.

    And that’s the crux of the biscuit. Single-issue voters aren’t saying they believe in one issue — and one man — so completely that all other issues do not count. They are saying they refuse to think it over. We have a lot of issues in the world; single-issue voters are, at best, greedy.

    And that is not a right vs. left issue. I know pro-abortion voters (excuse me, “pro-choice”) who are single issue.

  3. Howard Cruse
    October 21, 2012 - 4:20 am

    I came frighteningly close to becoming unable to afford my health insurance a few years ago. Fortunately, Massachusetts’s Commonwealth Care subsidy came to the rescue and kept me on stable ground until I reached Medicare eligibility. Thank you, Mitt Romney of yore. Now please suffer the electoral defeat your present-day incarnation deserves and keep your thoroughly corrupted hands off the Affordable Care Act.

  4. Martha Thomases
    October 21, 2012 - 5:34 am

    @Mike: Sometimes I would like to be a single-issue voter, but I don’t see the world in such simple terms. Yes, I’m pro-choice, and I have trouble supporting politicians who don’t respect a woman’s right to control her own body. But I also think that issues about choice connect to issues about jobs, equal opportunity, war, education and the environment (and probably other things I’m not remembering off the top of my head).

    I guess,if I have a single issue, I’d like a politician who can speak in complete sentences off the top of his head. Which puts Obama way ahead of Mitt this round.

  5. Mike Gold
    October 21, 2012 - 9:51 am

    Great. The 2012 election boils down to a contest between the Know-Nothing Party and the Anti-Idiot Party.

    Actually, the Know-Nothings had a lot in common with the current Republican Party. According to Wiki, their platform contained severe limits on immigration, restricting political office to native-born Americans of English and/or Scottish lineage and Protestant persuasion, mandating a wait of 21 years before an immigrant could gain citizenship, restricting public school teacher positions to Protestants, mandating daily Bible readings in public schools, the use of languages other than English… and restricting the sale of liquor.

    On the plus side, I don’t think they were opposed to caffeine.

  6. George Haberberger
    October 22, 2012 - 10:20 am

    As a self-described “single-issue” voter, here and on other places around the web, I feel obligated to comment.

    But first, a pet peeve. I always refer to the Pro-Choice faction as the Pro-Choice faction. That is what they have decided to call themselves and although I consider it a bit disingenuous, to reciprocate by calling them Pro-Abortion or Anti-Life is not my style. Let me quote from a post I made back in January: “Calling the Pro-Life people Anti-Choice is… unnecessarily antagonistic. If I were to reciprocate I’d have to refer to the Pro-Choice faction as Anti-Life, which I’m sure Darkseid would like but I’m not sure about Jack Kirby.”

    Here is the link:
    https://mdwp.malibulist.com/2012/01/sweet-charity-by-martha-thomases-brilliant-disguise/

    Of course being called Anti-Choice instead of Pro-Life probably should be expected when I am already being called greedy and simplistic.

    So… single issue voting. I don’t think I ever said that a candidate’s position abortion was the only issue I considered. It is however the one that has the most weight simply because I believe that issue affects any other view they have. I would love to have to choose between two or more Pro-Life candidates so that other issues would come into play. Issues like gay marriage, the death penalty, immigration and health care.

    Just this Sunday my church bulletin contained a flyer called “An Informed Catholic’s Guide to the Issues” from the U.S. bishops. It says in part, “We do not tell Catholics how to vote. The responsibility to make political choices rests with each person and his or her properly formed conscience. To help form your conscience, before you vote: 1. Weigh all the issues. 2. Understand that all issues DO NOT have the same weight.”

    There are two columns of issues listed. The first column lists, Racism, Discrimination, Death penalty, Unjust war, Lack of Health Care and Unjust immigration policy. These issues are “all serious moral issues that challenge our consciences and require us to act. They are not optional concerns that can be dismissed. But choices about how to respond to these and other compelling threats to human life and dignity are matters of principled debate.”

    The second column lists, Abortion, Embryonic Stem Cell Research, Gay Marriage, Violation of Religious Liberty, Cloning, Euthanasia. The bishops say about this list: “These are things we must never do, as individuals or as a society, because they are always incompatible with love of God and neighbor. Such actions are so deeply flawed that they are called ‘intrinsically evil’ actions. They must always be rejected and opposed, and must never be supported or condoned.”

    I do not fall strictly in line with all of this. For example I am dismayed to see gay marriage on either list, much less the second one.

    As far as Martha’s statement that Pro-Life people should vote Democratic because their policies benefit more lives: I see no evidence of that. Democratic policies seem to be just more and more government programs that only help in the short term but serve to keep the poor and disadvantaged dependent on those programs the rest of their lives. As mentioned often, universal health care has been an issue since Richard Nixon, through both Republican and Democratic administrations. Obama got a health plan through by making insider deals with big unions and other supporters, by expending much of his political capital and by excluding any Republican input.

    Health care is expensive. It is so expensive because people need to have it and all the levels of management and bureaucracy involved only make it more expensive. I donate platelets and plasma at the Red Cross regularly. The Red Cross gets my plasma and platelets at no cost from me but there is still the rent on the building, payroll for all the people who work there, utilities, the machines that collect the blood and filter out the platelets and plasma, (which I am sure are very expensive), and the cost of the Cheetos and juice they give me for donating. Okay, maybe those snacks are donated by Nabisco, but I’m sure they take a tax deduction for it.

    Insurance companies, being profit-based, add to the cost, so I am not happy about their continued involvement. Maybe health care should be considered as the same as National Defense, something necessary for the good of the country. Of course that means that doctors would no longer be individual businesses but government employees. And this of course would only add to a budget that is already bankrupting us.

    And finally, Martha said: “I guess, if I have a single issue, I’d like a politician who can speak in complete sentences off the top of his head. Which puts Obama way ahead of Mitt this round.” I can supply quite a few examples of Obama failing spectacularly on this point when he is speaking extemporaneously; hemming and hawing, mispronouncing words, losing his train of thought. When he is off the teleprompter, he is little better than George W. Bush.

  7. Neil C.
    October 22, 2012 - 1:07 pm

    George, you and the rest of the GOP have to get off the teleprompter meme. He is a shit-ton smarter and more well spoken than Bush.

  8. Rene
    October 22, 2012 - 1:20 pm

    Wow, the Catholic Church is even more Medieval than I thought. Racism, Unjust War and Lack of Health Care are open to discussion. Gay Marriage, Stem Cell Research, and Euthanasia aren’t.

    Talk about warped priorities!

    Unjust war and racism are minor offenses compared to who is buggering who and whether a man is allowed to pull the plug when he is crazy from pain.

    Once again, I’m glad my wife and I have nothing to do with organized religion, and if we ever have kids, they also won’t.

  9. Martha Thomases
    October 23, 2012 - 6:28 am

    George, I use the term “anti-choice” on purpose. Not to be insulting, but to be specific.

    The so-called “Pro-Life” movement, as it presents itself to the public, is, in my opinion, profoundly conservative. They oppose health care reform. They support the death penalty. They oppose gun control. They have supported the wars in Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and, most likely, Iran.

    I realize that this does not apply to every single person who opposes abortion. I know anti-abortion folks in the peace movement. In my experience, they are the exceptions.

    I am pro-choice. That means, obviously, if a woman wants contraception and/or abortion, she can have it. It also means, just as obviously, that if she doesn’t want those things, she doesn’t have to have them. To me, the decision is between a woman, her doctor, her partner and her spiritual beliefs, in that order.

    You can try to say that, since I am pro-choice, I am anti-life. Since I’ve given birth, you might have a problem proving that. And since I have devoted large chunks of my life to fighting the good fight for non-violent social justice, I think most people would consider such a characterization to be inaccurate.

  10. Martha Thomases
    October 23, 2012 - 6:30 am

    Also, while Catholics have every right to bring their religious beliefs to their political discourse, and their church has every right to preach whatever doctrine it so desires, they have no business claiming that their religion must define the legal system. When Muslims do it, we call it Sharia law and freak out.

  11. Neil C.
    October 23, 2012 - 7:20 am

    The easiest way to be against abortion is not to have an abortion. The problem for the anti-choice brigade is they think women are willing to have one like they change shoes. It’s not exactly the easiest decision in the world to make for 99 percent of the people who have them and probably pretty agonizing (I wouldn’t know). I just don’t understand how the Georges of the world get off on telling people what is moral and in G-d’s best interests. If I had a daughter or wife who was going for an abortion and someone was there protesting it and getting in my face, I might either haul off and belt him or tell him my life is none of his f— business.

  12. Rene
    October 23, 2012 - 8:41 am

    Martha, according to George, the Catholic Church spelled it out: the death penalty, unjust wars and lack of health care are open to debate. Abortion is not.

    Neil, I’ve met two women who had abortions, and it was pretty agonizing for them. Even if one believes abortion is a “crime”, one could rest easy in the knowledge that they are being punished. I don’t believe any woman can have an abortion without having some sort of psychological scar.

  13. George Haberberger
    October 23, 2012 - 10:25 am

    Martha said: “George, I use the term “anti-choice” on purpose. Not to be insulting, but to be specific.”

    Well pardon me for being insulted anyway. Specificity may be your intention but as you yourself admit it is not specific since you also said “I realize that this does not apply to every single person who opposes abortion. I know anti-abortion folks in the peace movement. In my experience, they are the exceptions.” Exceptions negate specificity. Do those people you know appreciate being called “anti-choice”? The Pro-Life movement, as I am familiar with it, is solely concerned with abortion. They do not oppose contraception and the Catholic Church’s Seamless Garment doctrine or Consistent Life Ethic opposes the death penalty.

    “You can try to say that, since I am pro-choice, I am anti-life.”
    On the contrary, in my first post I made a concerted effort to explain why I do not do that.

    [The Catholic Church has] “no business claiming that their religion must define the legal system.” They are not doing that. The flyer I quoted from specifically said. ““We do not tell Catholics how to vote. The responsibility to make political choices rests with each person and his or her properly formed conscience.”

    Neil said, “I just don’t understand how the Georges of the world get off on telling people what is moral and in G-d’s best interests.”
    Civilization is in the business of deciding what is moral. Allowing everyone determine that their specific morality is no one else’s business is anarchy.

  14. Martha Thomases
    October 23, 2012 - 11:05 am

    George, I am sorry my specificity offends you, but words mean what they mean. The so-called Pro-Life movement opposes letting women make their own choices. Hence, my terminology.

  15. Neil C.
    October 23, 2012 - 12:36 pm

    I repeat George, what you think is moral is not what everybody else things, and your anarchy claim is just like “If we allow gays to marry, won’t that lead to people marrying their dogs” false equivalency bullshit.

  16. George Haberberger
    October 23, 2012 - 2:00 pm

    Martha said: “but words mean what they mean.”
    Except apparently, when those words are “Pro-Life.” Then they do not mean what they mean.

    Pro-Choice on the other hand, means exactly choice, even though it denies every choice an aborted baby may have even wanted to make. Got it.

    We can play with semantics all day, I just take the high road and refer to the groups by the name they chose, regardless of its accuracy.

    Neil said:” what you think is moral is not what everybody else thinks…”
    No, obviously not but if you think that abortion on demand is now and always will be considered by society as morally acceptable, you should have stopped the science of embryology about 30 years ago.

  17. Neil C.
    October 23, 2012 - 10:48 pm

    *face palm*

  18. Neil C.
    October 23, 2012 - 10:49 pm

    I will tell my 17 year old self to do so, Mr. Obsessive.

  19. Rene
    October 24, 2012 - 5:19 am

    I find that “do what you will, as long as no one else is harmed” is an excellent piece of advice when we’re talking morality. And that is why I’m in favour of gay marriage, legalization of marijuana, right to assisted suicide, etc.

    But Neil, I always found it a bit problematic to include abortion in that list. It’s not a stretch to argue that there is another entity in there that IS harmed. It’s perhaps an unique case where the Church stepping in is not just to meddle in your own affairs.

    I am still Pro-Choice. I think that ultimately the mother is the one who will have to make the decision, including suffering the consequences. And that it isn’t moral either to keep a woman that doesn’t want to carry her pregnancy to term under constant surveillance.

    But I have to admit that, morally, it’s a lot more of a gray area than any of the other cases of Christians trying to tell other people how to live their lives.

  20. Neil C.
    October 24, 2012 - 6:48 am

    It is a gray area, but that’s for the people involved to decide, not me.

  21. Rene
    October 24, 2012 - 7:17 am

    Agreed.

  22. George Haberberger
    October 24, 2012 - 10:57 am

    “I will tell my 17 year old self to do so, Mr. Obsessive.”

    I don’t really mind being called obsessive when it is obsession about something important.
    But this isn’t my column. I didn’t pick the subject. Last week Martha wrote about a Pakistani girl who was shot by the Taliban and found similarities to Christian fundamentalists. That column as Martha notes here, veered “onto abortion and reproductive rights.” But that was at her prompting.

    Maybe my obsession lies in reading these columns in the first place.

  23. Bill Mulligan
    October 26, 2012 - 7:11 am

    Martha, I am pro-choice but I think it is generally just a common courtesy to call those who disagree by the term they prefer. And it’s fair as well, since using your logic, they could just as easily make the argument that many “pro-choice” people are not at all for choice, when it’s a choice they don’t like. The most vociferously anti-first amendment people I have known were proud “pro-choicers”. Yeah, they were all for the moral superiority of choice…unless that choice was to read a copy of Penthouse.

    I’ve seen people wearing pro-choice buttons while they plotted to deny membership in an organization to someone because they had heard that they were a born again Christian. (The person in question had not uttered one word to indicate they held opinions inconsistent with the organization’s goals. Their religion was proof enough of their inadequacy, or so it was thought until a bunch of us shamed the proudly “pro-choice” McCarthy wannabes into reversing themselves.) I’ve stood side by side with “pro-choice” people against those protesting an “offensive” play…and had those same damn “pro-choicers” protest ME when we tried to show a Russ Meyer movie at college.

    The ranks of the pro-choice movement are littered with people who would as soon see you fired as be allowed to write an opinion contrary to their worldview.

    BUT…so what? Their hypocrisy is not relevant to any discussion of abortion. So my take is this–if I truly wish to engage with people of opposing views I should at the very least be willing to make the tiniest of tiny concessions and call them by the name they choose. It costs me nothing and shows I have enough confidence in my opinion that I don;t need to poison the well with trivial semantics.

    Of course, in my experience it’s almost impossible to get people to really change their views on abortion through arguments, we’ve heard every argument there is. Only life experiences seem to work and they seem to go both ways. So if that is the case, flame on.

    I do wish more of my liberal friends would try to keep their secret desire to be the next Harlan Ellison under wraps when discussing gay rights, since they are NOT, in fact, Harlan Ellison, and generally just come off as angry a-holes which is no damn help at all to those of us trying to change hearts and minds, Which I can say with absolute assurance CAN be done. But not by angry a-holes.

  24. George Haberberger
    October 26, 2012 - 8:12 am

    Thanks Bill. I wish I had said that.

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